DNC Wants to Control Your Private Conversations Now

12 Jul 2021 18:12 #1 by Rick
Please read this slowly and really think about what this means, then tell me why we should accept this.

Biden allied groups, including the Democratic National Committee, are also planning to engage fact-checkers more aggressively and work with SMS carriers to dispel misinformation about vaccines that is sent over social media and text messages. The goal is to ensure that people who may have difficulty getting a vaccination because of issues like transportation see those barriers lessened or removed entirely.

www.politico.com/news/2021/07/12/biden-c...tion-campaign-499278


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12 Jul 2021 19:52 #2 by Wayne Harrison
OMG, Fact Checkers!!!

"The goal is to ensure that people who may have difficulty getting a vaccination because of issues like transportation see those barriers lessened or removed entirely."

Good. But, I have to shake my head at the many conservatives who think they "own the libs" by staying unvaccinated from a deadly disease. They were actually cheering at CPAC when it was announced President Biden hadn't met his vaccination goal. Good god. How dumb.

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12 Jul 2021 20:19 #3 by Rick

Wayne Harrison wrote: OMG, Fact Checkers!!!

"The goal is to ensure that people who may have difficulty getting a vaccination because of issues like transportation see those barriers lessened or removed entirely."

Good. But, I have to shake my head at the many conservatives who think they "own the libs" by staying unvaccinated from a deadly disease. They were actually cheering at CPAC when it was announced President Biden hadn't met his vaccination goal. Good god. How dumb.

You conviently avoided the main point Wayne... what do you think about the DNC trying to censor private text mesages between free Americans who supposedly stil have freedom of speech?

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13 Jul 2021 09:50 #4 by Wayne Harrison
I don't think anything about what you asked because, according to the article you linked to, that's not what they're planning. The DNC IS NOT trying to censor private text messages. That is completely false.

Again, I'm all for fact-checkers.

And you also "conveniently left out" the part of the article that said Charlie Kirk, the pro-Trump co-founder of the conservative student organization Turning Point USA, said on Fox last week that he was embarking on a “massive public relations campaign” around vaccination efforts and has already sent out SMS messages.

I'm curious why you left that part out?

As for SMS messages, I get at least one every day from the Health Ministry here in Costa Rica about COVID-19. It doesn't really bother me.

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13 Jul 2021 11:47 #5 by homeagain
I love the "right back at you" (to Rick)....seems u might have met your match. FACTS, now there is a needed
novel idea.

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13 Jul 2021 13:59 #6 by ramage
Once again, the spin, and deflection

The Politico article points out that democrat operatives will work with SMS carriers to dispel misinformation about vaccines.
The meaning is very clear, a third party will monitor your text messages for what they consider "misinformation". They will access your account without your permission.

The fact that Charlie Kirk is sending out SMS messages is a straw argument. He is not reading your texts to see if there is "misinformation" he is sending texts.

The fact that you get a text per day from the Health Ministry is another straw argument, again they are sending a message not reading your texts.

Why don't you circle back to us with more information regarding reading private texts versus sending out texts.

(As an aside, all diseases are potentially deadly.)

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13 Jul 2021 14:33 #7 by Rick
I asked you all to read that slowly for a reason. Rampage was able to comprehend what the article is saying and others can’t seem to get it.

I see this on Facebook all the time. Someone posts something then the Facebook “fact” checkers immediately throw a warning that they want you to read. Private texts should NEVER be available to anyone but those who are involved in sending or receiving.

Is that hard to understand? Or maybe Politico is wrong, I just know they are not some right wing news source.

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13 Jul 2021 17:04 #8 by ScienceChic
I'm seeing huge assumptions being made about what this paragraph in the Politico story means.

Biden allied groups, including the Democratic National Committee, are also planning to engage fact-checkers more aggressively and work with SMS carriers to dispel misinformation about vaccines that is sent over social media and text messages. The goal is to ensure that people who may have difficulty getting a vaccination because of issues like transportation see those barriers lessened or removed entirely.

A quick internet search finds that some suspect right-wing sites are equating "Biden allied groups" with the White House itself (and the DNC with "government").
What exactly does "work wtih SMS carriers" mean?
What exactly does "dispel misinformation" mean? To me, dispel (which means dissipate) is an act of refutation after something has been stated, not preventing it from being sent in the first place. Censorship is preventing it from being spoken or hiding it from view. Are these SMS carriers supposed to intercept and remove the messages before they complete their journey to recipient, or are they to be followed up with another message that refutes the first? That is NOT spelled out in that article whatsoever and yet it seems like people are assuming that's exactly what will happen.

The sentence about the goal speaks volumes. The goal isn't to invade users' privacy, delete messages, censor free speech, etc but to help those who have challenges in getting a vaccine overcome those difficulties. How do they plan to do that with these messages?

Rick wrote: Private texts should NEVER be available to anyone but those who are involved in sending or receiving.

Oh really? Hmm, I seem to recall certain glee when Lisa Page's and Peter Strzok's private text messages got released to the world.

Emails are just another form of communication. Shouldn't they too be kept private? I also remember an illegal dumping of thousands of climate scientists' emails that many cheerfully tried to use, including one in particular on this site, as fodder for denying climate science data.

"The DNC wants to control your private conversations now" is 100% a click-bait headline designed to frighten and outrage. Just like the disgusting lies that certain Republican politicians are spouting that "government workers are going door-to-door to force you to get vaccinated - it's socialism/communism." Your text messages are as private as they ever were (LOL if you think they actually are) and someone knocking on your door to encourage you to get vaccinated is NOT communism. Denounce extremist rhetoric and lies meant to divide us further or gin up fundraising through fear tactics.

Frankly, I think rather than "working with SMS carriers and fact-checkers to dispel information" it would be far more effective to sue every one of these a-holes for causing death and harm for deliberately sharing lies and misinformation that deepens vaccine resistance in vulnerable populations. It used to be a felony to give another person HIV; let's hold these people accountable for their actions and words that cause harm due to COVID-19.

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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13 Jul 2021 18:34 #9 by Rick

ScienceChic wrote: , I seem to recall certain glee when Lisa Page's and Peter Strzok's

I know you're smart enough to see the difference between and FBI agent and an FBI lawyer using their biases against a president they want to take down vs looking into the texts of innocent Americans. Without having that information available for all to see (employees of the people}, Strzok would have never been puled off that investigation. That was the most biased investigation we have ever seen and you think thats the same thing as reading texts of private citizens talking among themselves? What kind of country do you think we live in?

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13 Jul 2021 20:08 #10 by Blazer Bob

ScienceChic wrote: The sentence about the goal speaks volumes. The goal isn't to invade users' privacy, delete messages, censor free speech, etc but to help those who have challenges in getting a vaccine overcome those difficulties. How do they plan to do that with these messages?
Rick wrote: Private texts should NEVER be available to anyone but those who are involved in sending or receiving.

Oh really? Hmm, I seem to recall certain glee when Lisa Page's and Peter Strzok's private text messages got released to the world..


I do not understand how rick's state of mind is relevant. You seem to be arguing that it is OK for our emails and text we read without any due process. Is that correct?

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