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The only difference is this time there are billions of humans instead of none, or thousands, or millions. We're the first species Gaia has ever produced with the ability to create dwellings where we control the temperature, cultivate our own food, and we're thriving as a result.

Something around 98% of the species that have inhabited this planet are extinct, Gaia self corrected them off the planet, but for some odd reason, we're convinced that every species that exists now is essential to the survival of ourselves and every other living organism on the planet . . .

First bolded.....AND THOSE BILLIONS of humans have altered the process of self correction....in order for our species to survive and NOT BECOME EXTINCT,a radical realignment must occur...so that GAIA REGAINS RECOVERY.as of now,your (collectively) children,grand children have a bleak and hellish future ahead of them., I will have "transitioned",so that outcome is not in my future.......WE HAVE ONE SHOT AT GETTING THIS RIGHT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, (the latest from science sources say, it may already be too late to reverse the dire direction Gaia is heading.)

Second bolded....there was just a little bit of help from outer space for the mass extinction that has occurred in past eons.......shit happens,but when u (collectively) have the knowledge and WILL to change a paradigm and ACTION IS NOT TAKEN, I call that suicide

98% of the species are extinct?
Of course they are! I don't want Mammoths in my hayfield. Homo Sapiens have a very short time line in the history of the Earth. No humans ever saw a dinosaur. The dinosaur ages like Jurassic went on much longer than human history.

FredHayek wrote: 98% of the species are extinct?
Of course they are! I don't want Mammoths in my hayfield. Homo Sapiens have a very short time line in the history of the Earth. No humans ever saw a dinosaur. The dinosaur ages like Jurassic went on much longer than human history.

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GEE,.I certainly and absolutely disagree,,,when u watch doc on Netflex OR NATURE ON PBS, u will understand that the field of archeology has made astonishing discoveries of just how far back our earliest ancestors (neanderthal)and a human like species,other than Neanderthal have existed When digging up bones of mammoths and other ancient species,they have found rudimentary cut marks on the bones...carbon dating those bones showed the year 1,200 BC, the time scale has expanded BEYOND ANYTHING IMAGINABLE....we have a NEW understanding of evolution,and when tool making came into being.. Take a somewhat shallow oval rock, strike that rock , time and time again ,until an edge begins to appear....THAT ragged edge was used to cut,scrape and sever......the bones show that meat was salvaged and eaten. LUCY was our first discovery of our "family".....we have expanded our understanding in leaps and bounds since LUCY.

Even if you double original expectations of human length on the planet, we are still talking the last hour for mankind in an entire Earth year.

homeagain wrote: WE HAVE ONE SHOT AT GETTING THIS RIGHT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, (the latest from science sources say, it may already be too late to reverse the dire direction Gaia is heading.)

This is one of your best quotes HA, but I think it could be the best of your worst… if that makes sense.

Let’s start with the biggie… the science. You’re telling me the same scientists that say humans are killing the planet ALSO believe that there is a force/god/entity that directs our climate and weather patterns? You said “science sources”… could you show me at least one that is credible that even mentions Gaia?

Next we have to talk about “GETTING THIS RIGHT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS”. You do mean future generations of humans, right? Does the solution mean increasing the world population or decreasing it? I wouldn’t count on changing the vile human behavior you’re always speaking of, so I assume the Gaia solution is to drastically reduce the numbers. So you’re basically saying we need to get it right for those of us lucky enough to not get culled by our all knowing politicians and scientists?

Then there’s the solution that Gaia would approve of. Let’s say Gaia decided to work through a human to solve the problems humans have caused, and Gaia picked YOU. With your obvious wealth of knowledge in this subject, you would be able to tell me what steps would be necessary to make Gaia happy again… right? Or, will you just speak in circles and never give me the details of the pro-Gaia solution?

Lastly, your belief that Native Americans are all knowing when it comes to the planet is curious to me. I don’t know how many different ‘natives’ there were on the planet back before the evil white man stepped on this soil, but I know there were a lot. I also know the every one of them on every land mass had a different belief in why we are here and why the wind blows. What makes you think Native Americans were the smart natives and all those others around the world were just wrong?

homeagain wrote: I’d also like to talk about your Gaia god some more. Gaia s a god, right? I mean, if this invisible force has the ability to make decisions and punish people at will, it must be a god, right? PER RICK.....

I just caught. question and did not respond.

U have a misconception of the post./idea. GAIA is the planet EARTH,this orb that we call home. It is a solid mass within the vast number of galaxies. When I speak of Gaia,it is the very surface u walk on,live your lives on and r able to exist.,THERE IS NO OTHER PLANET/LIVING PLACE FOR MANKIND......LET THAT SINK IN. now think of your septic tank and leach field and the maintenance required to NOT be mired in your own shit.......SEE that image clear and concrete.....GAIA IS DROWNING IN SHIT.

AGAIN, GAIA IS NOT A GOD.....IT IS A ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING EARTH....IT COMES FROM ,I BELIEVE,LATIN ORIGIN.PERHAPS ROMAN.


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Gaia hypothesis 1
Gaia hypothesis
The study of planetary habitability is partly based upon extrapolation from
knowledge of the Earth's conditions, as the Earth is the only planet currently
known to harbour life.
The Gaia hypothesis, also known as Gaia
theory or Gaia principle, proposes that all
organisms and their inorganic surroundings
on Earth are closely integrated to form a
single and self-regulating complex system,
maintaining the conditions for life on the
planet.
The scientific investigation of the Gaia
hypothesis focuses on observing how the
biosphere and the evolution of life forms
contribute to the stability of global
temperature, ocean salinity, oxygen in the
atmosphere and other factors of habitability
in a preferred homeostasis. The Gaia
hypothesis was formulated by the chemist
James Lovelock and co-developed by the
microbiologist Lynn Margulis in the 1970s.
Initially received with hostility by the
scientific community, it is now studied in
the disciplines of geophysiology and Eart

The fans of human depopulation don't realize that the more humans the better living standards and lower pollution levels.

Society is set up like Jenga, and as you start pulling out pieces, (reducing population), you lose support. Less workers to keep the cogs running well. Less time thinkers have to improve technology and living standards. Why geniuses like Elon Musk are so concerned about falling fertility.

Already there are as many 65 year olds as 19 year olds. Who will take care of those senior citizens? Maintain our infrastructure?

I agree, Fred, but those who think humans are literally killing the planet will never stop and think about what you just said. As always, it's motion that drives them, not logic.

As for your assertions, HA, if Gaia is not a god, but can do god-like things (like punish humans with wind), how do you square that? Does Gaia not have the ability to adapt to elements that allegedly change our climate? If the earth is getting warmer than Gaia's ideal temperature range, why can't Gaia regulate the temperature if it has the ability to make the wind blow when it's angry?

Gaia is a theory. Gaia is not a theory that the majority of scientists believe. If Gaia was indeed a serious scientific theory based in factual evidence, don't you think Gaia would be part of the climate change discussion? Climate scientists don't mention Gaia because it's an old theory that never proved to be a viable scientific theory. There needs to be proof. At least with climate change nutters they can show temperatures over time (which still doesn't prove anything but they are tangible forms of evidence).

Where is the evidence that the earth is one big living organism that can regulate and heal itself like a human body can? Individual ecosystems can evolve and heal themselves, but that's much different than the planet coordinating all the ecosystems and climate.

Lastly, your belief that Native Americans are all knowing when it comes to the planet is curious to me. I don’t know how many different ‘natives’ there were on the planet back before the evil white man stepped on this soil, but I know there were a lot. I also know the every one of them on every land mass had a different belief in why we are here and why the wind blows. What makes you think Native Americans were the smart natives and all those others around the world were just wrong? PER RICK

The were 500 NATIONS OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLE BEFORE WHITES CAME.


The American native culture construct is MATRIARCHAL.....THE OTHER CONTINENTS INDIGENOUS PEOPLE i AM NOT SURE, however, i know they r metaphysical in their belief system....AGAIN Netflix doc. about "the lost children."...plane went down from Bogota Columbia INTO THE Amazon. The children were the subject of an intensive search by the military,and many orgs. They were reluctant to contact the local tribes, because of conflict. The children were in the Amazon for 32 days, one girl 10 yr. one boy 6 and an INFANT, without any real support.or provisions.....as a last resort one "guerrilla soldier" said WE CAN NOT LET THESE CHILDREN DIE ALONE IN THE AMAZON. He contacted the chief of a tribe, deep in the Amazon, (reluctant),but the tribe/Chief saw the dire need and agreed.

He spearheaded the search,"the others" no nothing of the nature of the Amazon"....there r forces u have to be aware of and how to navigate them......sudden winds would come from no where,rattling the trees or a
path would suddenly appear where thee was NO TRAIL. S0-0-0 this part is woo-woo (per doc that was filming live). the chief said u will find them at 3 tomorrow . He then said I shape shifted into a panther and found traces of their journey thru the jungle...i know where they r. THEY WERE FOUND THAT AFTERNOON...BARELY ALIVE,, ANOTHER 24 HOURS AND THEY WOULD HAVE PERISHED. (AFTER MEDICS CAME AND TRANSPORT TO HOS. ALL R DOING WELL, )...IT WAS A SLOW RECOVERY FROM LACK OF NOURISHMENT,BUT THEY R ALIVE AND GOOD)

tHE ABORIGINES "DOWN UNDER" HAVE METAPHYSICAL BELIEFS....IT IS A DIVERSE AND DIFFERENT WAY OF LIFE.

Native American tribes were not a monolith in thinking. Clearly you haven't spent much time study individual tribes. They varied depending on the terrain they lived and even different pre-Columbian time periods, like the Mound Builders.

Thousands of different cultures and beliefs and you want to reduce them to one type of matriarchy. Ironically you are stereotyping them.