'Don't Ask' Repeal May Cause Troop Exodus

BearMtnHIB wrote: How about if 3 women - all consent to getting married? How about that?

Should we change our laws to allow 3 men or 3 women to marry legally?

I'm just wondering if todays unacceptable sexual behavior is on the list for the left to make acceptable.

If somehow we are able to determine the consent of the goat in the future- will this be acceptable sexual behavior for the left?

What if we change our acceptability for children to consent? In many countries - children as young as 10 can marry. Will this be acceptable to the left in the future?

Where does it stop?

What's the difference?

I guess when there is no rational response to an issue you resort to irrational "what ifs". I still don't understand why the right feels they have this obligation to dictate other's sexual lives, it's really none of your business and doesn't directly effect you. You don't want to be around gays, fine.......but you don't have the right to dictate their lifestyle.

What are you all so afraid of? That you yourself will become gay? It has seemed in the last few years that those (especially religious leaders) who shout the loudest denouncing homosexuals are themselves closet gays.

......think about it, and take a good hard look at yourself and your reasons for your outrage that two people love each other and they are the same sex.

Archer - you have completely avoided the topic at hand here by proclaiming that my "what if's" are irrational. I do not think they are irrational any more than expecting a straight society to accept homosexual behavior.

And I'm not afraid of anything - I just don't see the reason to change our laws to accomodate homosexual activity- like you said - it's really none of my business right?

Well - until they start affecting the laws we all live by.

Science Chic wrote:

Residenttroll wrote:

Science Chic wrote: Yeah, it's so awful to want understanding, acceptance, and to be treated the same as everyone else. :faint:

Yeah, It's about as awful as trying to understand how a scientist would support a lifestyle that is against the laws of nature and life.

I've already posted numerous links to evidence showing that it a lifestyle that is essential to life and an integral part of nature, has been for eons. Not gonna waste time repeating myself if you're gonna choose to ignore the facts.

Yeah, I could argued that in some cultures incest are an integral part of nature too. Why don't we accept it as a cultured lifestyle?

residenttroll wrote: I am still trying to wrap my pea brain on how having homosexual sex is life producing? The real purpose for those sexual organs is to produce life, correct? What's life producing in the anus?

"sciencechickadee wrote: The reward pathways in the brain are activated whether they are stimulated during reproductive actions or homosexual actions. If an animal feels good about their litter mates, sexual partners, pride members, etc. it's all beneficial because it supports group altruism which in turn increases survival chances. Thus, evolutionarily, homosexuality has been reinforced because it is a positive for survival and NOT a deviant or abnormal activity.

Yippee, I can't wait for you to show evidence how homosexuals reproduce during homosexual sex.

sciencechickadee wrote: What's life producing in the anus? Republicans! rofllol Sorry, couldn't resist!

Spin the topic. You didn't answer the question...made the classic error of a liberal and try to insult the conservative. Come one, explain how homo sex reproduces life? Explain how semen when released in the anus produces life?

sciencechickadee wrote: How about this? http://www.marksdailyapple.com/fecal-po ... ut-health/ It's not exactly the way a fecal transplant should be done, but...
Monday Musings: Poop Transplants, Sleep Deprivation and Going Nuts

Let’s Talk Sh**

Poop is the new probiotic. Doctors have been using fecal transplants as a “last resort,” http://www.the-scientist.com/news/display/57795/ mostly to treat the rising scourge of Clostridium difficile, a gut bug that affects about 250,000 Americans every year and proves extremely resistant to antibiotics. Shooting a fecal extract from healthy people into the C. diff-ridden colons of the affected has a 95% success rate.

But gut health isn’t just about acute infection. It’s also about basic metabolic health. A study http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 05414.html showed that sterile mice receiving a fecal transplant from obese mice gained more weight than sterile mice who received transplants from lean mice. And most recently, a Dutch pilot study http://www.medpagetoday.com/MeetingCoverage/EASD/22352 gave 18 obese males with pronounced metabolic syndrome fecal transplants from lean individuals. They did not lose weight, but they did experience improved insulin sensitivity and triglyceride numbers.

Nice job at spinning.... but does the research shows what happens when some semen or sperm is added to the crap?
All I know is the stuff coming out my anus is dead or dying body waste. If you want to shoot up on it because you are too lazy to lose weight ....enjoy my poop. But remember, you still haven't proved that using a sexual organ for homosexual sex can produce life - the real purpose of the sex organ.

So, why is overeating a disorder and homo sex is not?

archer, what do you mean this hasn't effected us? Do you realize it has and on many levels. Who released the documents to Wikileaks, a disgruntled homosexual soldier, angry at his boyfriend, and decided to let it rip, come hell or highwater!

Bradley Manning was born in Crescent, Oklahoma, to an American father and a Welsh mother. His parents had met when his father was stationed at Cawdor Barracks in Wales. Manning spent his early childhood in Oklahoma, but moved with his mother to southwest Wales at the age of 13 when his parents divorced.[9] He had troubles fitting in at school and what former acquaintances have described as a troubled childhood.[10]

Manning dropped out of school at 16 and returned to the United States, working at a pizza parlour. He enlisted in the United States Army at 18, becoming an intelligence analyst deployed in support of the 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division at Contingency Operating Station Hammer, Iraq.[11]

Manning had social difficulties in the Army, which were attributed to the problems of being homosexual under the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy.[10] Before being arrested, Manning had been demoted from Specialist to Private First Class for assaulting another soldier and was scheduled to be discharged early.[5][12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning

Getting back to the original question, it appears to me that the White House IS anticipating a mass exodus.

6 out of 10 reasons the WH gives for passing the Dream Act (Amnesty) mention the military…really 6 out of 9 because the 10th isn’t really a supporting reason (“It’s The Right Thing To Do”).

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/12/03/10-reasons-we-need-dream-act

P.S. We have a “rich precedent of non-citizens serving in the U.S. military”? What’s up with that?

Given the pressing business of the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell I think it's time for a sing along. What do you say fellas?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paGa80T-nWU

The Queen Berets

Falling fairies from the sky.
I broke a nail, Oh I could cry,
Don't you like how my tushy sways?
We are the fags of the Queen Berets.

Barrack Obama’s words upon my ears
"You guys have rights, be proud you're queer"
I once was scared, now I'm okay.
Cause I'm a fag in the Queen Berets.

Put silver earclips on my nuts.
I love the pain, now spank my butt.
The way you walk is awfully cute.
I sure would love to pack your chute.

This Army stuff is awfully slick.
Free meals and clothes and lots of dick.
When I retire, I'll still get my pay.
I thank you Obama, from the Queen Berets.

Science Chic wrote: Goats: Humans having sex with animals is a waste of resources and energy - there will be no viable, fertile offspring. And as the animal isn't going to help the survival of the human, there's no altruistic benefit unlike partnerships of 3 humans.

You just made my point for homosexuality - it's a waste of resources and energy - there will be no viable, fertile offspring. Thank you! rofllol

Residenttroll wrote: Yeah, I could argued that in some cultures incest are an integral part of nature too. Why don't we accept it as a cultured lifestyle?

See above.

sciencechickadee wrote: Yes, I had fun with a quick joke, but I did answer the question - read it again, a little more closely. If there is increased good-will because of homosexual relationships between mating pairs, and non-mating pairs, then members of a group other than the parents will help protect and feed offspring of the mating pair. This increases survivability of the whole group. It's not a matter of homosexual pairs actually producing offspring or not, it's how well the group behaves together and helps one another - true absolute homosexuality does not occur in nature or species would go extinct. But homosexuality does help groups improve their odds of survival.

I spent many summers and winter breaks during my teenage years on my uncles and aunts farms. It was rare to have a queer member of cattle, chickens, goats, pigs, and horses...but when there was an oddball...the herd typically ignored, starved, or even attempted to hurt the queer member. Let's get it very clear.... I am not advocating violence. I think your argument about survivability is lacking if we just take a look at how domestic farm animals handle the queer member.

sciencechickadee wrote: Then you don't know enough. Not everything that comes out of the anus is dead or dying - it's teeming with living bacteria and viruses which is why diseases are spread by unsanitary living conditions. Who says that the only purpose of a sexual organ is for reproduction? That's the point I was making - it isn't just for creating offspring, it also generates good feelings when used for pleasure (which I'm sure you wouldn't disagree with), and this fosters increased cooperation and mutual benefits between members of a group who participate in non-mating sex.

I understand that my poop is teeming with living bacteria and viruses ...and it's living in all of the dead stuff coming out of my body.

sciencechickadee wrote: Because overeating causes an unhealthy disease state that adversely affects the physical funtioning of an individual, homosexuality does not.

Homosexual sex is very high risk sexual lifestyle.

Here's some quick research for you to chew on.

Dr. Neil Whitehead and Briar Whitehead state regarding various cultures: "If homosexuality were significantly influenced by genes, it would appear in every culture, but in twenty-nine of seventy-nine cultures surveyed by Ford and Beach in 1952, homosexuality was rare or absent."[1]

Dr. Tahir I. Jaz, M.D., Winnipeg, Canada states: "The increasing claims of being "born that way" parallels the rising political activism of homosexual organisations, who politicise the issue of homosexual origins . In the 1970s, approximately ten percent of homosexuals claimed to be "born homosexual" according to a large scale survey....However, in a survey in the 1980s, with the homosexual rights movement increasingly becoming active, thirty-five percent claimed to be born that way.[2]

In 1980 a study was published in the American Journal of Psychiatry which stated that eleven former homosexual men became heterosexuals "without explicit treatment and/or long-term psychotherapy" through their participation in a Pentecostal church.[3]

In regards to homosexual couples and domestic violence, a recent study by the Canadian government states that "violence was twice as common among homosexual couples compared with heterosexual couples".[4] Also, according the American College of Pediatricians who cite several studies, "Violence among homosexual partners is two to three times more common than among married heterosexual couples."[5]

Regarding homosexuality and promiscuity, in 2004 the Baptist Press reported the following: "A new study by a group of University of Chicago researchers reveals a high level of promiscuity and unhealthy behavior among that city's homosexual male population. According to the researchers, 42.9 percent of homosexual men in Chicago's Shoreland area have had more than 60 sexual partners, while an additional 18.4 percent have had between 31 and 60 partners...As a result, 55.1 percent of homosexual males in Shoreland -- known as Chicago's "gay center" -- have at least one sexually transmitted disease, researchers said."[6]

In September of 2006, the Agape Press reported the following:
“ A survey by The Advocate, a homosexual magazine, revealed that promiscuity is a reality among homosexuals. The poll found that 20 percent of homosexuals said they had had 51-300 different sex partners in their lifetime, with an additional 8 percent having had more than 300.
Unprotected homosexual sex is also a concern among health professionals. A survey in Ireland by the Gay Men's Health Project found that almost half of homosexuals said they were having unprotected sex....
The fact that many homosexuals appear to live their lives in sexual overdrive does not seem to concern leaders in the movement. In an editorial from the same issue (August 15) in which the survey results were published, The Advocate said: "[Homosexuals] have been proud leaders in the sexual revolution that started in the 1960s, and we have rejected attempts by conservatives to demonize that part of who we are."[7]


↑ My Genes Made Me Do it - a scientific look at sexual orientation by Dr Neil Whitehead and Briar Whitehead - Chapter 6
↑ http://www.flyfishingdevon.co.uk/salmon ... /tahir.htm
↑ E.M. Pattison and M.L. Pattison, "'Ex-Gays': Religiously Mediated Change in Homosexuals," American Journal of Psychiatry, Vol. 137, pp. 1553-1562, 1980
↑ 2004 General Social Survey, Statistics Canada, Canada's National Statistical Agency, July 7, 2005
↑ http://www.acpeds.org/?CONTEXT=art&cat=22&art=50
↑ Baptist Press, MARRIAGE DIGEST: New study: Homosexual men prone to promiscuity by Michael Foust (Posted on Jan 16, 2004)
↑ http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/9/152006g.asp

Residenttroll wrote: Here's some quick research for you to chew on.

Dr. Neil Whitehead and Briar Whitehead state regarding various cultures: "If homosexuality were significantly influenced by genes, it would appear in every culture, but in twenty-nine of seventy-nine cultures surveyed by Ford and Beach in 1952, homosexuality was rare or absent."[1]

Dr. Tahir I. Jaz, M.D., Winnipeg, Canada states: "The increasing claims of being "born that way" parallels the rising political activism of homosexual organisations, who politicise the issue of homosexual origins . In the 1970s, approximately ten percent of homosexuals claimed to be "born homosexual" according to a large scale survey....However, in a survey in the 1980s, with the homosexual rights movement increasingly becoming active, thirty-five percent claimed to be born that way.[2]

In 1980 a study was published in the American Journal of Psychiatry which stated that eleven former homosexual men became heterosexuals "without explicit treatment and/or long-term psychotherapy" through their participation in a Pentecostal church.[3]

In regards to homosexual couples and domestic violence, a recent study by the Canadian government states that "violence was twice as common among homosexual couples compared with heterosexual couples".[4] Also, according the American College of Pediatricians who cite several studies, "Violence among homosexual partners is two to three times more common than among married heterosexual couples."[5]

Regarding homosexuality and promiscuity, in 2004 the Baptist Press reported the following: "A new study by a group of University of Chicago researchers reveals a high level of promiscuity and unhealthy behavior among that city's homosexual male population. According to the researchers, 42.9 percent of homosexual men in Chicago's Shoreland area have had more than 60 sexual partners, while an additional 18.4 percent have had between 31 and 60 partners...As a result, 55.1 percent of homosexual males in Shoreland -- known as Chicago's "gay center" -- have at least one sexually transmitted disease, researchers said."[6]

In September of 2006, the Agape Press reported the following:
“ A survey by The Advocate, a homosexual magazine, revealed that promiscuity is a reality among homosexuals. The poll found that 20 percent of homosexuals said they had had 51-300 different sex partners in their lifetime, with an additional 8 percent having had more than 300.
Unprotected homosexual sex is also a concern among health professionals. A survey in Ireland by the Gay Men's Health Project found that almost half of homosexuals said they were having unprotected sex....
The fact that many homosexuals appear to live their lives in sexual overdrive does not seem to concern leaders in the movement. In an editorial from the same issue (August 15) in which the survey results were published, The Advocate said: "[Homosexuals] have been proud leaders in the sexual revolution that started in the 1960s, and we have rejected attempts by conservatives to demonize that part of who we are."[7]


↑ My Genes Made Me Do it - a scientific look at sexual orientation by Dr Neil Whitehead and Briar Whitehead - Chapter 6
↑ http://www.flyfishingdevon.co.uk/salmon ... /tahir.htm
↑ E.M. Pattison and M.L. Pattison, "'Ex-Gays': Religiously Mediated Change in Homosexuals," American Journal of Psychiatry, Vol. 137, pp. 1553-1562, 1980
↑ 2004 General Social Survey, Statistics Canada, Canada's National Statistical Agency, July 7, 2005
↑ http://www.acpeds.org/?CONTEXT=art&cat=22&art=50
↑ Baptist Press, MARRIAGE DIGEST: New study: Homosexual men prone to promiscuity by Michael Foust (Posted on Jan 16, 2004)
↑ http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/9/152006g.asp

OK, you did admit it was quick research. I found it on my first search too. Why not at least link the site you did you selective cut and paste from? Or did I miss it?

http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_Statistics