Star Trek Into Darkness, May 15, 2013! New Release Date!

homeagain wrote: OK then, I have NOT seen the movie, BUT, how can Kahn be part of the script.....Carlos Montablan is dead and he IS kahn....(forgive
me for my stupidity,BUT I am really wavering about seeing the movie....(DH loved it and is willing to see it AGAIN, with me)... : :

The answer is...Eric Bana. lol (They use that a few times in that review I posted). During the 1st movie, Abrams established an alternate reality because of Spock and Nero coming back in time and altering events, one in which the same people exist, but have different life experiences. Kahn still exists in this universe, he's just had a similar, but different life.

I agree that Cumberbatch did an awesome job as Kahn, for me it's a tie between him and Montalban. One of my favorite parts of the movie is watching him run full-out, damn does he have beautiful form (Quinto is almost as pretty, but his movements are just not as perfectly in sync)! :droolpuddle: Go see it homeagain, just don't bother with the 3D, and hit the matinee when it's cheaper. Did I post the Australia interviews of Quinto and Pine? He is a very articulate, intelligent individual - almost a little too much so (his vocabulary was quite...ornate and academic).

Renegade, I usually go to movies to be entertained as well, but I just can't let it go when they trample on a classic like this and have to call them on their extreme laziness. Many could argue that this story was a good one to pick in order to deepen Kirk and Spock's friendship, but frankly, it's way too soon for that. The circumstances in the original movie happened after Kirk and Spock had spent decades together and were completely in tune with one another; in this movie, they've barely begun to discover who each other is and argue over not knowing what to even expect of the other's actions, so to have them crying and screaming over each others demise comes off as so totally fake it's ridiculous.

Bob, Star Trek itself is historically considered left-wing propaganda: it's about a future that would make most conservatives heads spin like a top (what? no capitalism? everyone is equal despite having different stations in life? - sounds like communism to me!), but it's a future that is an ideal to dream of, not necessarily one that could exist in reality.

Fred, I think his punishment was exactly what he needed. What has always been the redeeming quality to an otherwise self-absorbed, self-centered, egotistical, arrogant, womanizing scroundel that is Kirk, was his unwavering and deep-rooted loyalty to his crew and absolute love for his ship that he always put first ahead of himself. He hadn't learned that lesson yet in this universe and had to lose his ship in order to realize/internalize how important it was, and become that captain that we knew he was capable of becoming. Nothing less would've caused that transformation, he's too arrogant.

Firefly rocks and I'd misbehave with Nathan Fillion any day! But unless a miracle happens, there just aren't enough episodes to re-watch, and only one movie. The comics were a nice continuation, are they still coming out? I am so out of the loop on the comics...and I'm not sure I'd want to follow them if they took the story where Joss was going with Inara - I hate when he does that sh**.