GOP poll: Tea party movement could cost Republicans in 2012

Jews, too.

Here is my input:
1. SC is a welcome face at the 285 TP meetings and we appreciate her posting her meeting notes.
2. Nmysys is not a spokesman for the 285 TP group, he is a founder but not a spokesman. Anybody who knows Nmysys, knows he is a very out spoken, passionate, individual, who cares very deeply about our country.
3. I can’t speak for other TP groups but less than 50% of the members of the 285 TP group are Republicans. I would say we have a pretty good selection of independents, Republicans, and Libertarians. Even in this small group we all don’t toe the same line, the one thing we have in common is to elect and support fiscal conservatives. Socially I think you’d find us a pretty diverse group.

Now to address the comments made regarding our last meeting. I have no doubt those comments were made. But I can promise they weren’t made by Nmysys, myself or any of the regular members. We don’t aspire to be the “conscience of Republican Party”, and as I stated many of the members are not Republicans. To the address the statement “Expand influence with Republican Party”, that is a true statement but within the scope of expanding influence to all fiscally conservative voters.
I believe it’s more of a matter the GOP wanting to influence, use, and co-opt the tea parties rather than the other way around. At this meeting we had two leaders of the Park County GOP Central Committee, we regularly have attendees from the Jeffco GOP. They see a pool of politically active conservative voters.
At this meeting we did talk about recruiting and supporting conservative candidates to run for elective office. We also talked about attending caucus and making sure we recruit the fiscally conservative to register to vote if for no other reason than to have a say at the very grassroots level caucus elections. We do not specify any party. Next fall we will have “caucus attendee training” many voters who attended their first caucus these last few cycles simply had no idea how the process worked. We want to make sure people with our interests are active participants.

Finally; Dude you seem to have a long standing grievance against Nmysys, please take that elsewhere. Nmysys is a member, he is not a spokesman Nmysys is speaking for himself. Unlike others we do believe in free speech. Nmysys, as are all others, is free to say what he wants in whatever forum he desires. That Nmysys is perceived as a spokesman by some is their own doing.

All I can say is everybody is welcome.

Note to SC, I did see this thread and the way you were portrayed. I apologize for not jumping in sooner but I have to make a living. (I’ve been doing phone interviews with potential new hires all over the country) Let me assure you, that you are very very welcome at any of our meetings and welcome you posting your meeting notes. Please, next time please make sure your robes are pressed. We don't want to create a bad impression :jk2: :jk2: You know we love you.

Wow... I have to give that about a "5" for execution; and a "10" for degree-of-difficulty. That's one of the best non-apology apologies I've seen in awhile. Congratulations.

At least the utter nonsense of saying that the group includes "some Democrats" is finally dropped, and it just becomes "independents, Republicans, and Libertarians"...I'm glad that silliness is out of the way. "Expanding influence with the Republican Party", and other ultra-conservative principles as the purpose of the group FINALLY answers the questions posed earlier...(Imagine my surprise!)

I'm sure John Hinkley was "a very out spoken, passionate, individual, who cared very deeply about" assassinating Ronald Reagan, too... That doesn't excuse his behavior, and doesn't explain away the incessant personal attacks by Nmysys on anyone who doesn't agree with him... (And before you get wound up, YES, when attacked I attack back--with overwhelming force, whenever possible... If Nmysys doesn't want to get attacked, he should learn not to start anything that he doesn't want escalated.)

Nmysys seems to have "long-standing grievances" against just about everybody on this board who doesn't drink the same Kool-Aid and have the same beliefs he does. He is free to take that elsewhere too... In the meantime, no one on this board has to take ANYTHING "elsewhere" as long as Nmysys wants to respond with personal attacks to everyone who disagrees with him. I believe in "free speech" too, and I'm more than willing to share it at the drop of a hat.

"Does it hurt when you do that?....Don't DO that..."

That's one of the best non-apology apologies I've seen in awhile. Congratulations.

LJ, he said that Nym is responsible for his own remarks. I think that is pretty clear.

Grady wrote: Finally; Dude you seem to have a long standing grievance against Nmysys, please take that elsewhere.

Nmysys wrote: Are you now setting the rules for 285Bound.com?

Going to try to turn it into another Pinecam?

This is fun!

Maybe he's out on jury duty?

I used the term

fiscally conservative

and that gets morphed into

ultra-conservative principles

. The two are completely different, but nice spin.

My reference to “long-standing grievances” was directed only to the Dude, it seems, the Dude and Nmysys have very long standing quarrel that has nothing to with the topic of this thread. I simply requested they would take that elsewhere.
Yes Nmysys attacks and yes Nmysys retaliates back. Do I think it is productive No, not any more than I think attacks from the left are productive.

Just to be very clear I am in no way apologizing for Nmysys. I think he is wrong about SC and I’ve told him so.

Jews, too.

What does that mean Wayne? Showing your Anti-Semitic tendencies? Asshole!!

Okay I'm here now so all of you screaming Liberals get ready to jump on me. So sorry that I have other things to do in my life except jump when Liberals say jump.

First and foremost, whether you people were ever interested in being part of The local or any other group that calls itself a Tea Party Group is seriously in doubt. That said, let me make this clear right up front, I may be the most visible of the Local Tea Party Group, but that is what has made me the target of all the rants from all of you. I don't represent myself as the spokesperson for the group to anyone because of one main thing, we don't have a leader, haven't and are not interested in that structured of a group. What we are, whether or not, you want to believe it, and most of you have warped ideas that no one can change, so we aren't interested, and I , especially am not a bit interested in trying to change any of you into members of the Tea Party Group.


Yes, the doors are open, but that is not for the purpose of argument or hostility, but for the purpose of those who seriously do want to get involved. That is all we have done and plan to do, is invite those who otherwise have never had a voice in the political realm. Personally, I don't give a damn what you think of me. I set myself up for that by posting on this public forum, copying and pasting articles that I thought would create controversial discussion. Not once in the year that I have been active on this forum has there actually been any intelligent debate about anything political. All it has fostered is attacks from all on the left, all the trolls, all the attack artists like The Dude, a spineless skinny punk who comes on, attacks and then runs and hides, and complains that my reactions to him are violent. His daddy wouldn't buy him firewood when he moved into the area, so almost two years later, he chose to attack me. I don't take sh** from anyone, never have, never will, and I damn sure won't take his drive-by attacks. LJ has never had a decent word for anyone or anything that wasn't exactly the spoon fed pablum that LJ loves. Screw You LJ. Archer sits by her computer, it appears, just waiting for me to post something so she can respond with sometimes unintelligible crap. VL can write anything he wants, but no one says a damn thing.

But Nmysys appears and all the loons come out of the wood works and attack everything that he posts. I can apologize when I do wrong, but it goes unnoticed. No big deal, that's life.

I have been ill, whether you want to believe it or not, Dude, I could give a sh**, but I stayed off the board for about a month, and as soon as I posted the attacks started instantly. I must represent something that the Left fears, kind of like Palin, or Gingrich, or The Donald, because immediately the attacks begin, so to all of you, it is the Dreaded Tea Party.

With that said, you all can rant and rave all you like, Wayne, you included, but I don't have any responsibility to give you Leftists any ammunition to fire at myself or the Tea Party Group. You as far as I am concerned are the enemy, supporters of the worst President in our history, because you want the entitlements and the Socialism of European countries, the same Socialism that has proven to fail in those countries that you seem to emulate.

So I'm the vocal one, and you don't like it. Tough!!

You want things that myself, and others like me think are wrong. Like it or not, there are those of us who think you are wrong and we will do whatever it takes to make sure, by voting, that you don't get it.

Now SC. Apparently you spoke to someone else in the Tea Party about posting in OUR forum, and yes, you are the owner, but you are proving to me that because of your left leaning political bent, that you spin things the way you want them to be interpreted. I personally resent that. I also don't think that you should be taking sides in Political discussions. You have shown me that you are doing so. I'm sorry that you wish to interpret my words and actions the way you do, I had always thought we were actually friends, but I can see that means something different to you than it does to me. Now I see that Grady made the decision, and I suppose he is entitled to. He is a part of the group.

CG, maybe someone else will answer your question, it won't be me, because no matter what I respond, it will be attacked, and I'm tired of being the bulls eye. Someone else can take up that mantle. It's all bulls*** any way.

If I feel like posting I will, if you don't like what I post, either don't read it, or complain, it will fall on deaf ears from now on. Mostly I am going to spend less time on this board and more time paying attention to things that are important to me.

Have a nice day, you hypocritical A**ho***.

Nobody that matters wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: Nmysys presumes to be the spokesperson for the TP , whether he is or not.

A vocal member, maybe - but I've never seen anywhere that he's claimed to speak for the group.

You're projecting.

He's NOT speaking for me...

The Dude wrote: You all better watch yourselves... Pretty soon Nmysys is going to come out playing the victim!! That or explain to us that he has health problems and it is not his fault he posts such nonsense. I think the 285 Tea Party would stand a greater chance of sucess if they would stop letting nmysys act as your spokesman. If I were a member of the group I would want someone with integrity, and the abilty to calmly debate those with opposing views. Instead you have this hot headed copy and paste outrage of the day idiot as your poster child. The fact this insane guy is your loudest supporter I am sure turns many people off to the whole group.

Wow... You were right, Dude... "Nmysys = victim"...Didn't take long....