What the Corridor REALLY Needs is Another Shopping Center

09 Sep 2011 09:52 #91 by The Viking
I have a good name and reputaiton with most all local businesses up here. Most all of them know me by name as they know I am a strong supporter of their businesses and our local community. THAT is the kind of morals and beliefs that I live by. Helping to support our neighbors and friends. Not trying to cut them down and fight against them to hope they fail and lose their jobs just to try and prove a point for something that is already built and cannot be changed. THAT is pure selfishness and ignorance! And THAT shows LJ's true character!

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09 Sep 2011 10:01 #92 by homeagain
AHEM, May I point out a VERY important part of the equation that no one is addressing......your COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ok these projects and gave them their blessings. Just WHERE does the blame settle? From my POV, you are required to look further into the
problem and truly understand what is the MOTIVE behind the approvals (from the BOCC).......the Safeway complex (new) was NOT a
clear cut piece of land when presented to the public for review. The motive is MONEY,GREED,not what is best for the community/mountain/land.JMO

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09 Sep 2011 10:03 - 09 Sep 2011 10:38 #93 by LadyJazzer
Yep... And MY motives are to preserve what I moved up to the mountains to have in the first place... And I've been here 22 years....

They can take their greed and stuff it.

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09 Sep 2011 10:11 #94 by chickaree

Martin Ent Inc wrote: I ould be happy with just a Barn store, and 1 gas pump. and not many people...

I'm with you on this one. Too many city people moving up here and jonesing for town stuff. I don't get that. Want to live in town? There it is. Really people, how many Starbucks do we need?

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09 Sep 2011 10:21 #95 by LadyJazzer
Exactly... You like strip malls and shopping, and gated, fenced communities, and street lights on the corners, (and taxpayer supported Rec Centers), ad nausuem... Here, let me show you this map of Highlands Ranch...

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09 Sep 2011 10:39 #96 by The Viking

LadyJazzer wrote: Yep... And MY motives are to preserve what I moved up to the mountains to have in the first place... And I've been here 22 years....


Are you not listening at all? WHAT are you preserving by forcing people to lose jobs? IT IS ALREADY BUILT!!! YOU CAN'T REBUILD THE HILL!! Wow are you really that slow? What are you accomplishing trying to make businesses go bankrupt THAT ARE ALREADY HERE, and telling others not to support local businesses?

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09 Sep 2011 10:41 #97 by The Viking

chickaree wrote:

Martin Ent Inc wrote: I ould be happy with just a Barn store, and 1 gas pump. and not many people...

I'm with you on this one. Too many city people moving up here and jonesing for town stuff. I don't get that. Want to live in town? There it is. Really people, how many Starbucks do we need?


That is great. Many of us want that. But it is here so what good does it do trying to make them go out of business and leave vacant buildings and making people lose jobs? OMG it is like talking to a rock!

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09 Sep 2011 10:42 #98 by The Viking

LadyJazzer wrote: Exactly... You like strip malls and shopping, and gated, fenced communities, and street lights on the corners, (and taxpayer supported Rec Centers), ad nausuem... Here, let me show you this map of Highlands Ranch...


Who said they want that? Are you putting words in peoples mouths again?

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09 Sep 2011 10:44 #99 by The Viking

homeagain wrote: AHEM, May I point out a VERY important part of the equation that no one is addressing......your COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ok these projects and gave them their blessings. Just WHERE does the blame settle? From my POV, you are required to look further into the
problem and truly understand what is the MOTIVE behind the approvals (from the BOCC).......the Safeway complex (new) was NOT a
clear cut piece of land when presented to the public for review. The motive is MONEY,GREED,not what is best for the community/mountain/land.JMO


That is great but how does fighting to make them vacant and unemploy our neighbors (like LJ wants) going to change something that is already here? There is nothing else planned on being built so why are we fighting against business owners who are already here trying to make a living and feed their families?

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09 Sep 2011 11:02 #100 by homeagain

The Viking wrote:

homeagain wrote: AHEM, May I point out a VERY important part of the equation that no one is addressing......your COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ok these projects and gave them their blessings. Just WHERE does the blame settle? From my POV, you are required to look further into the
problem and truly understand what is the MOTIVE behind the approvals (from the BOCC).......the Safeway complex (new) was NOT a
clear cut piece of land when presented to the public for review. The motive is MONEY,GREED,not what is best for the community/mountain/land.JMO


That is great but how does fighting to make them vacant and unemploy our neighbors (like LJ wants) going to change something that is already here? There is nothing else planned on being built so why are we fighting against business owners who are already here trying to make a living and feed their families?

The problem, as I see it,is APATHY.....people do NOT pay attention to what their government reps are doing(in this case the BOCC). I see this problem from both perspectives. LJ's heart,soul and whole being is
OFFENDED that mountain/land/community is not the first consideration. (I,also,have taken the stance of not/or rarely utilizing Safeway,
as I have stated before KARMA is a true thing,and when the land/mountain is disrespected there ARE ramifications.) I understand that
people need their jobs to sustain their life on the mountain,BUT the businesses that signed onto these insane leases have a heavy hand
in the problem. IF more businesses had BACKED AWAY from the leases and given STRONG feedback why,then other choices/options MIGHT have been worked out.....the business model (for the centers) was poorly researched and THAT factor falls upon the developer/banks/shoulders. SORRY, I would have NEVER agreed to the insane lease arrangements had I been a business owner looking into locations for my business.......DUE DILIGENCE is what was lacking from many of the parties involved.(sorry for break in text)

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