Cleveland Clinic to Cut $330 Million

I see you too have reading comprehension issues Archer.

LadyJazzer wrote:

FredHayek wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: You're a liar, Fred...But I would expect nothing less from you...

Right-Wing Media's Latest Zombie Myth: Congress Is "Exempt" From Obamacare

FactCheck.org: No ‘Special Subsidy’ for Congress

Myth of Congress' Obamacare exemption



Just another one in the daily onslaught of outright lies by the TeaBaggers, since they don't have any TRUTH to back them up. But hey, since you never post any sources for anything, you keep settin' 'em up, and I'll keep knockin' 'em down...

Wanna throw some more lies out there...? (Unless, of course, you have some valid sources to back them up?)
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Tick-tock, tick-tock...

Totally agree with what you said, as Obamacare was originally written, Congress wasn't exempt, but some are now trying to change that. (Easy to pass a bill when you don't let people read it like the congressional staffers getting screwed.)

When it happens, you let me know... In the meantime, you're a LIAR, Fred...And YOU KNOW IT, and you knew when you made the statement.

You really are starting to embarrass yourself, quit when you are behind.

FredHayek wrote: I see you too have reading comprehension issues Archer.

Sure....that's it. When you say Congress (capitalized even) you really mean congressional staffers.....how silly of me not to know that

FredHayek wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: Since they didn't, and it's a lie, therefore it's a moot point. And Fred is STILL a liar.

And if a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his arse when he jumps.


So, if the sociopath Randroid teabaggers were allowed to actually cut $40Billion from the foodstamp budget, while protecting tax-cuts for millionaires, and farm subsidies for themselves (members of Congress) AND Millionaires, would any of the 'Baggers care if one child starved? (Actually, I think the Dems have had ENOUGH, and that $40billion cut is not going anywhere...But since you're into hypothetical questions....)

Is your reading comprehension zero? I said congressional staffers were forced into Obamacare. Some members want to change that for their staffs, but a lot of others think they should have to suffer with the rest of America so no changes have been made.
I swear do you even think on your own or does HuffPo spoon feed you your daily outrage every morning.

And evidence of bribes? Google the "Husker Kickback". Even check your own beloved unpaid bloggers in their pajamas of HuffPo.

Sorry, Fred... You're still a liar, and I'm not responding to any more of your unsourced lies.

Per Yahoo: the new rates for the different ACA plans are out. Young, healthy people are going to be paying more and older, unhealthier people are going to pay less than they would have.

(Win for Archer & LJ!)

Of course, the pricing is just best guesses about what the costs will really be after a year of the new plan. They could increase or decrease, and the US taxpayer will be subsidizing some of those monthly payments.

FredHayek wrote: Per Yahoo: the new rates for the different ACA plans are out. Young, healthy people are going to be paying more and older, unhealthier people are going to pay less than they would have.

(Win for Archer & LJ!)

Of course, the pricing is just best guesses about what the costs will really be after a year of the new plan. They could increase or decrease, and the US taxpayer will be subsidizing some of those monthly payments.

Premium predictions will probably be as accurate now as the cost of the ACA was back in 2009 (that cost has more than doubled btw)

Medicare and Medicaid ballooned much higher than original CBO estimates when these programs were originally created. Same with Social Security. I predict the same will happen with ACA. One of the reasons why costs increased was people were living longer and the increased costs of all that exciting new medical technology.

Both my parents have each survived three heart attacks, they probably would have died without modern healthcare and prescriptions. Much more expensive than a couple funerals.

People living longer definitely effects medicare and SS, the ACA,? Not so much.

House is still acting in accordance with the will of the people. How long will the Senate hold out and refuse to do the same?

From Huff-n-Puff:

CNBC found that when participants were asked about "Obamacare," more claimed they a) knew what the law was and b) did not support the legislation. In total, 29 percent of those polled were in favor of Obamacare, 46 percent were against, and 12 percent were unaware of what that was. On the flip side, when asked about the "Affordable Care Act," 22 percent supported the initiative, 37 percent were opposed to it, and 30 percent were unaware of what that was.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/2 ... 02225.html

From Rasmussen:

But 58% favor a federal budget that cuts spending, while only 16% prefer one that increases spending. Twenty-one percent (21%) support a budget that keeps spending levels about the same. 

This helps explain why 53% would rather have a partial government shutdown until Democrats and Republicans can agree on what spending to cut. Thirty-seven percent (37%) would prefer instead that Congress avoid a shutdown by authorizing spending at existing levels as the president has proposed.

Some conservative Republicans in both the House and Senate are refusing to approve a budget unless it slows or stops funding for the health care law, but the president and most congressional Democrats are adamantly opposed to any such cuts. However, 51% of voters favor having a partial government shutdown until Democrats and Republicans agree on what spending for the health care law to cut. Forty percent (40%) would rather avoid a government shutdown by authorizing spending for the health care law at existing levels.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... re_funding

While you were sleeping. They were plotting to remove women's rights.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/28/gop-to-add-conscience-clause-to-spending-bill/

The so-called “conscience clause” would allow employers and insurers to opt out of preventative care for women which they find objectionable on moral or religious grounds. That prominently includes birth control, which most insurers are required to provide for free under current Obamacare rules.

The American Taliban is on the rise................