archer wrote: You don't know yet that it doesn't work, the ACA is not the web site. And, you don't know if it's more expensive....for some, yes....for others no. Kind of like most everything. I'll listen to your complaints openly in a few years after the start up issues, and the growing pains have shaken out. For those people with pre existing conditions, for those who have been cancelled, for those who have been unable to afford health insurance, being able to sign up for insurance for next year it's a success.
AGAIN, any massive undertaking.....that totally alters the paradigm....is going to take time to
become cohesive. Change is ALWAYS messy and unorganized.
The healthcare delivery system in this country is BROKEN BEYOND REPAIR....it requires a "do over"and THAT is what we are in the midst of...a "do over".
Am I in DISBELIEF that O was so complacent in his "legacy" and allowed this fubar to roll out
WITHOUT end to end Beta testing....what could have been a moderately messy debut becomes
a fubar beyond recognition.
I went thru divestiture with AT&T (many, many moons ago) and it took YEARS for that to
unfold and become cohesive....(what a on the job cluster fuck).
archer wrote: You don't know yet that it doesn't work, the ACA is not the web site. And, you don't know if it's more expensive....for some, yes....for others no. Kind of like most everything. I'll listen to your complaints openly in a few years after the start up issues, and the growing pains have shaken out. For those people with pre existing conditions, for those who have been cancelled, for those who have been unable to afford health insurance, being able to sign up for insurance for next year it's a success.
AGAIN, any massive undertaking.....that totally alters the paradigm....is going to take time to
become cohesive. Change is ALWAYS messy and unorganized.
The healthcare delivery system in this country is BROKEN BEYOND REPAIR....it requires a "do over"and THAT is what we are in the midst of...a "do over".
Am I in DISBELIEF that O was so complacent in his "legacy" and allowed this fubar to roll out
WITHOUT end to end Beta testing....what could have been a moderately messy debut becomes
a fubar beyond recognition.
I went thru divestiture with AT&T (many, many moons ago) and it took YEARS for that to
unfold and become cohesive....(what a on the job cluster f***).
AT&T wasn't f'king with my health and my finances.
Actually, I give Archer credit for stepping up and responding. Pretty near all the other ACA defenders are AWOL. Where is that ACA cheerleader Something the Dog Said. Surely he/she has some brilliant sarcastic answers?
archer wrote: You don't know yet that it doesn't work, the ACA is not the web site. And, you don't know if it's more expensive....for some, yes....for others no. Kind of like most everything. I'll listen to your complaints openly in a few years after the start up issues, and the growing pains have shaken out. For those people with pre existing conditions, for those who have been cancelled, for those who have been unable to afford health insurance, being able to sign up for insurance for next year it's a success.
AGAIN, any massive undertaking.....that totally alters the paradigm....is going to take time to
become cohesive. Change is ALWAYS messy and unorganized.
The healthcare delivery system in this country is BROKEN BEYOND REPAIR....it requires a "do over"and THAT is what we are in the midst of...a "do over".
Am I in DISBELIEF that O was so complacent in his "legacy" and allowed this fubar to roll out
WITHOUT end to end Beta testing....what could have been a moderately messy debut becomes
a fubar beyond recognition.
I went thru divestiture with AT&T (many, many moons ago) and it took YEARS for that to
unfold and become cohesive....(what a on the job cluster f***).
That was also a government mandate brought to you by Judge Green as I recall.
they had 4 years to provide input, to come up with practical alternatives to the ACA, to work with the Democrats to address problems in the ACA and vote on improvements. But they did not, their time was spent 1st trying to make Obama a one term president and then trying to defund or destroy the ACA......they FAILED. so now they have turned to a smear campaign with misinformation and fear tactics. Given their recent record, that too will fail.
they had 4 years to provide input, to come up with practical alternatives to the ACA, to work with the Democrats to address problems in the ACA and vote on improvements. But they did not, their time was spent 1st trying to make Obama a one term president and then trying to defund or destroy the ACA......they FAILED. so now they have turned to a smear campaign with misinformation and fear tactics. Given their recent record, that too will fail.
We know. D-good. R-bad. It must be nice to live in such a simple world.
they had 4 years to provide input, to come up with practical alternatives to the ACA, to work with the Democrats to address problems in the ACA and vote on improvements. But they did not, their time was spent 1st trying to make Obama a one term president and then trying to defund or destroy the ACA......they FAILED. so now they have turned to a smear campaign with misinformation and fear tactics. Given their recent record, that too will fail.
We know. D-good. R-bad. It must be nice to live in such a simple world.
Is it any simpler than the R good D bad world you live in?......I don't think so. Really, the fact that you seem unable to see in yourself the same behavior you criticize in others is....well....pretty common around here. It's been all " ME GOOD, YOU BAD" here for ages.
they had 4 years to provide input, to come up with practical alternatives to the ACA, to work with the Democrats to address problems in the ACA and vote on improvements. But they did not, their time was spent 1st trying to make Obama a one term president and then trying to defund or destroy the ACA......they FAILED. so now they have turned to a smear campaign with misinformation and fear tactics. Given their recent record, that too will fail.
This has nothing to do with the GOP. This belongs to the Democrats.
And while you are at it, list just one of the smears?
they had 4 years to provide input, to come up with practical alternatives to the ACA, to work with the Democrats to address problems in the ACA and vote on improvements. But they did not, their time was spent 1st trying to make Obama a one term president and then trying to defund or destroy the ACA......they FAILED. so now they have turned to a smear campaign with misinformation and fear tactics. Given their recent record, that too will fail.
We know. D-good. R-bad. It must be nice to live in such a simple world.
Is it any simpler than the R good D bad world you live in?......I don't think so. Really, the fact that you seem unable to see in yourself the same behavior you criticize in others is....well....pretty common around here. It's been all " ME GOOD, YOU BAD" here for ages.
Sorry archer, that is delusional. I have long regarded the RNC and the GOP as peas in a pod. The political class that work for there own power and against the American people. I am a libertarian.
they had 4 years to provide input, to come up with practical alternatives to the ACA, to work with the Democrats to address problems in the ACA and vote on improvements. But they did not, their time was spent 1st trying to make Obama a one term president and then trying to defund or destroy the ACA......they FAILED. so now they have turned to a smear campaign with misinformation and fear tactics. Given their recent record, that too will fail.
We know. D-good. R-bad. It must be nice to live in such a simple world.
Is it any simpler than the R good D bad world you live in?......I don't think so. Really, the fact that you seem unable to see in yourself the same behavior you criticize in others is....well....pretty common around here. It's been all " ME GOOD, YOU BAD" here for ages.
Sorry archer, that is delusional. I have long regarded the RNC and the GOP as peas in a pod. The political class that work for there own power and against the American people. I am a libertarian.
So sorry, for you it's libertarian good, everyone else bad. Different labels, same damn sentiment.
