What Would End The Protests?

ZHawke wrote:

HEARTLESS wrote: Is that referring to drunk idiots that get out of control celebrating team victories?
Because just a picture of a white guy in a sea of drunk idiots isn't a racial thing.

Never said it was a racial thing. That's your inference.

The picture title refers to white people doing stupid $4it. That is racial to single out one race. Besides they had to find a hockey celebration to not have lots of other races in it. Haven't seen many golf, tennis or similar celebration riots either, must be a team thing.

Care to comment on the video footage of Michael Brown's stepdad shouting "burn this bitch down" repeatedly?

HEARTLESS wrote:

ZHawke wrote:

HEARTLESS wrote: Is that referring to drunk idiots that get out of control celebrating team victories?
Because just a picture of a white guy in a sea of drunk idiots isn't a racial thing.

Never said it was a racial thing. That's your inference.

The picture title refers to white people doing stupid $4it. That is racial to single out one race. Besides they had to find a hockey celebration to not have lots of other races in it. Haven't seen many golf, tennis or similar celebration riots either, must be a team thing.

Yeah, now all of a sudden, you're saying it was, in fact, a racial thing. Make up your mind.

HEARTLESS wrote: Care to comment on the video footage of Michael Brown's stepdad shouting "burn this bitch down" repeatedly?

No. Do you?

ZHawke wrote: Please don't anyone take this post to mean "they did it too". I'm merely trying to bring a little perspective to the table here. One really does, in my opinion, need to look at how the coverage of these two disparate types of groups differs:

storify.com/betakateenin/white-people-riots

How does it go from "I'm merely trying to bring a little perspective" to "Yeah, now all of a sudden you're saying it was, in fact, a racial thing ?" If you post something for perspective, explain what your perspective is. I pointed out the flaw of the picture and any inference provided by a single photograph.
Regarding the "burn this ..." comment, I'll say what I said previously. Some people want vengeance disguised as justice.

A DIFFERENT perspective is needed here....I just watched an CNN interview with a 30 yr. veteran
of the police force who TRAINS police personnel...A.) THIS was the first time this particular officer had
fired his weapon in a "real time" event. B.) FIRST RULE OF TRAINING (per this trainer) NEVER allow your personal space to be breached. This police officer FIRST allowed the suspect to breach space, by allowing him near his vehicle (so close that he could reach into the car)...C. AFTER the altercation in the vehicle,his NEXT mistake was NOT calling for back up....and making the decision to pursue the suspect ALONE.

PER THIS 30 year veteran...THERE IS A LACK OF TRAINING ( and that, per his view, NEEDS to be addressed across the country.) There was fear, TESTOSTERONE,adrenaline on BOTH sides of incident and THAT created this tragedy...FOR TRAINING PURPOSES A BODY CAMERA IS REQUIRED (first change that should be implemented.)

Body cameras are becoming much more common. And while expensive at first, it seems to reduce lawsuits against the police so it pays off.
I don't agree about the training. In a normally sleepy little town like Ferguson, they probably have very few encounters like this. Policing is much more Mayberry style. Talk to people, defuse, there was no reason or expectation Brown would grab the gun and maintaining a condition red status is taxing.
Try it some time. Constantly on the alert, your head on a swivel, very draining.

The officer should have tased the assailant but when your gun is grabbed, the first response is to hold onto it so he doesn't shoot you.

homeagain wrote: A DIFFERENT perspective is needed here....I just watched an CNN interview with a 30 yr. veteran
of the police force who TRAINS police personnel...A.) THIS was the first time this particular officer had
fired his weapon in a "real time" event. B.) FIRST RULE OF TRAINING (per this trainer) NEVER allow your personal space to be breached. This police officer FIRST allowed the suspect to breach space, by allowing him near his vehicle (so close that he could reach into the car)...C. AFTER the altercation in the vehicle,his NEXT mistake was NOT calling for back up....and making the decision to pursue the suspect ALONE.

PER THIS 30 year veteran...THERE IS A LACK OF TRAINING ( and that, per his view, NEEDS to be addressed across the country.) There was fear, TESTOSTERONE,adrenaline on BOTH sides of incident and THAT created this tragedy...FOR TRAINING PURPOSES A BODY CAMERA IS REQUIRED (first change that should be implemented.)

Ah, so it's the cop's fault that this 300 lb thug who just robbed a store decided to wrestle with the cop in his car. Seriously, even if he made some kind of procedural mistake, does that mean he gave up his right to defend himself, or pursue a criminal who he was forced to discharge his weapon at?

The "perspective" that really matters is that of the cop who had no clue what kind of guy Brown really was and what he was about to do.

HEARTLESS wrote:

ZHawke wrote: Please don't anyone take this post to mean "they did it too". I'm merely trying to bring a little perspective to the table here. One really does, in my opinion, need to look at how the coverage of these two disparate types of groups differs:

storify.com/betakateenin/white-people-riots

How does it go from "I'm merely trying to bring a little perspective" to "Yeah, now all of a sudden you're saying it was, in fact, a racial thing ?" If you post something for perspective, explain what your perspective is. I pointed out the flaw of the picture and any inference provided by a single photograph.
Regarding the "burn this ..." comment, I'll say what I said previously. Some people want vengeance disguised as justice.

I'll respond to this, and then I think I'm pretty much done.

First, you said, and I quote:

Is that referring to drunk idiots that get out of control celebrating team victories?
Because just a picture of a white guy in a sea of drunk idiots isn't a racial thing.

Than you said, and I quote:

The picture title refers to white people doing stupid $4it. That is racial to single out one race. Besides they had to find a hockey celebration to not have lots of other races in it. Haven't seen many golf, tennis or similar celebration riots either, must be a team thing.

I saw a bit of a contradiction. Apparently, you didn't. If I'm wrong, I apologize. I just don't think I am wrong.

I didn't post a picture of someone saying it was for a little perspective, you did. Besides he shows some intelligence as he was cold so he got near the warmth of the fire, never mind that his shirt is in hand, he is drunk. Now will you answer what perspective you were attempting with the picture?