Impeachment proceedings against Trump

29 Jan 2020 17:15 #961 by ScienceChic
Dershowitz said that Abuse of Power isn't a valid reason for impeachment. And yet, he said the exact opposite in 1998, and he accuses Constitutional scholars of being biased in a partisan manner? That's rich.

Nixon was impeached for Abuse of Power, btw. It never went to a vote, because he resigned, but it was included as a charge.
www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/impeachments/nixon.htm

RESOLVED, That Richard M. Nixon, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors, and that the following articles of impeachment to be exhibited to the Senate:

ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT EXHIBITED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN THE NAME OF ITSELF AND OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AGAINST RICHARD M. NIXON, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, IN MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT OF ITS IMPEACHMENT AGAINST HIM FOR HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANOURS.

Article 1: Obstruction of Justice.
Article 2: Abuse of Power.
Article 3: Contempt of Congress.


"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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29 Jan 2020 17:30 #962 by ramage
Sen. Cory Gardner has announced that he will vote no as to calling additional witnesses

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29 Jan 2020 17:33 #963 by homeagain
OH, but that was then, WHEN integrity,courage, country first was en vogue....present participants
are seriously short on THOSE attributes.... a civic lesson is cowardliness...sad that young adults,
children are watching ADULTS align themselves to corruption and callousness.....a lesson in
LACK of a spine.....:sick:

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30 Jan 2020 15:22 #964 by ScienceChic
ROFL! Oh snap, she's got a point.

My favorite evidence that President Trump cared strongly about corruption in Ukraine is the fact that when it came time to hire a Chairman for his own campaign, he picked a guy whose last job was running the political shop for this Ukrainian president: Ukrainians vowed to turn their ex-president’s estate into a ‘Museum of Corruption.’ But it’s something else now. ~Rachel Maddow

Paul Manafort, Former Trump Campaign Chairman, Sentenced To Just Under 4 Years

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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30 Jan 2020 16:10 #965 by ramage
Unfortunately Paul Manafort cannot respond as he is being held in solitary confinement for a non-violent crime. Wonder why?
Manafort was hired by then candidate Trump in March of 2016 while involved in a Presidential primary campaign. He had no access to any documents relating to the Ukraine that were amassed by the Obama administration. (parenthetically Manafort's partner in dealig with the Ukraine was Tony Podesta brother of John Podesta, the chairman of Clinton's campaign).
Manafort resigned from the Trump campaign in August, 2016, at the request of the candidate Trump, after Trump had access to additional information.
Rachael Maddow somehow left this out of her report.

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30 Jan 2020 17:21 #966 by ScienceChic
He was being held in isolation prior to his trial for his own protection since he's a well-known figure. Do you have any documentation that he still as after his conviction? If he is, are you concerned for his well-being and for that of all prisoners held in solitary confinement that you agree we need drastic prison reform in this country?

I don't know why Podesta wasn't charged, he certainly seemed to be in violation of FARA. Perhaps he was granted immunity in exchange for information?

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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30 Jan 2020 17:37 #967 by Pony Soldier
Its very simple. Manafort went to prison because he was associated with Trump and that is enough to send anyone to jail, even a decorated general. Podesta was with the protected class. They don't get prosecuted regardless of the mountains of evidence.

Mice die in mousetraps because they don't understand why the cheese is free.

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30 Jan 2020 17:39 #968 by ramage
As of nypost.com 6/18/19
"Paul Manafort is holed up in solitary confinement at a Manhattan prison — and he’s expected to remain at the lockup as his mortgage-fraud case plays out, his lawyer and the Department of Justice said Tuesday."
Unless you have new information, he is in solitary confinement.
"If he is, are you concerned for his well-being and for that of all prisoners held in solitary confinement that you agree we need drastic prison reform in this country?"
Straw argument, this is not about the penal system it is about Paul Manafort.
As an aside, I have no sympathy for Nathan Dunlap. Do you? Or would you rather avoid the question?

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30 Jan 2020 19:13 #969 by Pony Soldier
I believe he’s been moved to some prison in PA. He’s no longer in solitary.

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30 Jan 2020 19:27 #970 by ramage
The Aurora shooter has been moved to Pennsylvania, but I have seen no documentation that Paul Manafort has been moved. What is your source?

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