Impeachment proceedings against Trump

02 Feb 2020 11:25 #981 by FredHayek
So President Trump has survived the impeachment process. The trial is scheduled to end on Wednesday.

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02 Feb 2020 11:42 #982 by koobookie

Rick wrote: Did the Democrats prove that Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate the Bidens because he wanted to damage him so that it would help his election? To anyone with a brain and a little honesty, that has a very strong stench of corruption in a very corrupt country. You, like the rest of the Dems BELIEVE you know the motive, which in your eyes must be the worst motive. The problem is that your worthless Dems like Schiff were not able to prove that bad motive.


Yes, the House Managers did prove that Trump asked Ukraine to interfere in our elections. Marco Rubio admitted that Trump was guilty of the charges in the Impeachment Articles, that they were impeachable offenses, but he didn't want to remove the President. The statement from Dershowitz on the floor of the Senate is an admission that Trump was guilty of the charges, but that they were not impeachable. The Counsel for the President never really refuted the charges, but rather attacked the process and attacked the Bidens.

You BELIEVE in the Trump. He's on your team, he's the champion of your tribe. You have allowed that misplaced loyalty to blind you to the facts of overwhelming evidence that Trump should be removed.

You are suffering from an advanced case of TWS - Trump Worship Syndrome.

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02 Feb 2020 11:57 #983 by ramage
Koobookie: "Rubio admitted that Trump was guilty of the charges in the Impeachment Articles, that they were impeachable offenses, but he didn't want to remove the President"

Not the case. Take some time to read Sen Rubio's actual statement:

My Statement on the President’s Impeachment Trial
Senator Marco Rubio
Medium.com 1/31/20

To repeat Sen. Hirono, (quoted in an earlier post) "Democrat Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-HI) has blasted President Donald Trump’s legal defense during the Senate impeachment trial, declaring she doesn’t “care” about his “legal” or “constitutional” arguments.

Evidently the Constitution is something that you don't care about either.

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05 Feb 2020 16:02 #984 by FredHayek

koobookie wrote:

Rick wrote: Did the Democrats prove that Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate the Bidens because he wanted to damage him so that it would help his election? To anyone with a brain and a little honesty, that has a very strong stench of corruption in a very corrupt country. You, like the rest of the Dems BELIEVE you know the motive, which in your eyes must be the worst motive. The problem is that your worthless Dems like Schiff were not able to prove that bad motive.


Yes, the House Managers did prove that Trump asked Ukraine to interfere in our elections. Marco Rubio admitted that Trump was guilty of the charges in the Impeachment Articles, that they were impeachable offenses, but he didn't want to remove the President. The statement from Dershowitz on the floor of the Senate is an admission that Trump was guilty of the charges, but that they were not impeachable. The Counsel for the President never really refuted the charges, but rather attacked the process and attacked the Bidens.

You BELIEVE in the Trump. He's on your team, he's the champion of your tribe. You have allowed that misplaced loyalty to blind you to the facts of overwhelming evidence that Trump should be removed.

You are suffering from an advanced case of TWS - Trump Worship Syndrome.


You are putting words in my mouth. I don't hero worship Trump. I think what he did in Ukraine was classless, but hardly a reason to throw him out of office. Giving billions to the terrorist regime of Iran is a much better reason for expulsion from office. The Iranians used that money to supply terrorist groups with explosives they used against American servicemen and women. Almost as bad? Supplying guns to Mexican drug cartels. I think President Obama forgot too often which country he was supposed to be defending.

Update: President Trump is exonerated by 19 votes out of 100 in a mainly partisan way.
Senator Mitt Romney has made history by being the only party member who voted to remove a president from office from his own party. This is the same man that when running against President Obama in 2012 was reviled by the Left. Luckily he prefers to only keep grudges against fellow Republicans.

But after years of the Democrat investigations yielding nothing but embarrassment, the party has decided to go on investigating the Trump administration. Maybe they should work on passing a budget instead? Or serving their home districts?

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05 Feb 2020 18:31 #985 by Rick


Good advice, but the Dems are currently looking for the next impeachment because they don't have ideas that work and inspire people to vote for them. Keep watering that dead flower, I'm sure to will come back to life along with your credibility.

It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy

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07 Feb 2020 09:27 #986 by Pony Soldier
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20 Feb 2020 21:55 #987 by Blazer Bob
"Lawmakers Are Warned That Russia Is Meddling to Re-elect Trump"
www.nytimes.com/2020/02/20/us/politics/r...trump-democrats.html

It is NYT so it must be true. You're welcome.

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21 Feb 2020 06:30 #988 by Pony Soldier
I tend not to trust parting shots from ousted officials. If they have an ax to grind, their viewpoint will be slanted. It’s possible that this is true but it today’s “get Trump” environment, it’s hard to believe anything. Russia could put this story out there just to damage Trump’s chances.

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21 Feb 2020 06:56 #989 by homeagain

Blazer Bob wrote: "Lawmakers Are Warned That Russia Is Meddling to Re-elect Trump"
www.nytimes.com/2020/02/20/us/politics/r...trump-democrats.html

It is NYT so it must be true. You're welcome.


ANOTHER source,viewpoint....exit out of circle,article will appear

www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-t...-doesnt-quite-add-up

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21 Feb 2020 09:27 #990 by FredHayek
LOL, the Democrats must be really worried if they are trotting out the Russians Are Coming articles already. Wouldn't Putin want Bernie Sanders to win? He wants to cut the military in half and bring troops back home. A Sanders administration would be perfect for Vlad.

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