I am only 30 minutes into it so will wait to ask more questions as more than likely most will be answered in the video.
Thank you LNFF for taking the time to present information that affects us all.
IN NOVEMBER 2014, WE HAVE A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAN OUT THE ENTIRE HOUSE AND ONE-THIRD OF THE SENATE! DONT BLOW IT!
“When white man find land, Indians running it, no taxes, no debt, plenty buffalo, plenty beaver, clean water. Women did all the work, Medicine man free. Indian man spend all day hunting and fishing; all night having sex. Only whit man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that.” Indian Chief Two Eagles
Thanks again SC for the video and for the timeline which made it a lot easier to follow and pick up as I watched in increments.
My eyeballs about popped out of my head when there was talk about clearing 250 feet around a home for insurance purposes. For some subdivisions that are an acre or less, it would mean no trees and it wouldn't extend the full 250 feet before they would be meeting the property line. Seems a bit challenging.
Thank you residents of the Lower North Fork fire for taking the initiative to make suggestions/recommendations for changes that affect us all. I will write the above mentioned parties using my own words.
As for the petition, I can not in good faith sign it as it is written so I will write another, sign and send. Who are you sending the petition to? The same as above?
I am absolutely torn between wanting to see you get some compensation for the state's wrongdoing but am also concerned about the taxpayers picking up the tab. Others from other fires usually don't get compensation from insurance for the land only their homes if they even received compensation. They live with the land the way it is. We live in an area where there is a great potential for fire.
I agree with most of the petition but do not believe that we the taxpayers should pay to bring the property back to how it existed before the fire. There should be some compensation but there does have to be some limit.
Again thank you for keeping us informed as to the progress, or lack thereof, in getting things resolved. I am so very sorry for your losses.
IN NOVEMBER 2014, WE HAVE A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAN OUT THE ENTIRE HOUSE AND ONE-THIRD OF THE SENATE! DONT BLOW IT!
“When white man find land, Indians running it, no taxes, no debt, plenty buffalo, plenty beaver, clean water. Women did all the work, Medicine man free. Indian man spend all day hunting and fishing; all night having sex. Only whit man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that.” Indian Chief Two Eagles
Regarding the 250 feet, I don't think it will ever happen. Higher insurance rates maybe for living in a wildfire area.
Akilina, we are talking about our state government who does nothing unless prodded. Even if you signed the petition they will ignore it and do whatever they want.
Thank you LNFF residents for keeping this front and center.
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"The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." attributed to Margaret Thatcher
"A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government." Thomas Jefferson
akilina wrote: Thanks again SC for the video and for the timeline which made it a lot easier to follow and pick up as I watched in increments.
My eyeballs about popped out of my head when there was talk about clearing 250 feet around a home for insurance purposes. For some subdivisions that are an acre or less, it would mean no trees and it wouldn't extend the full 250 feet before they would be meeting the property line. Seems a bit challenging.
Thank you residents of the Lower North Fork fire for taking the initiative to make suggestions/recommendations for changes that affect us all. I will write the above mentioned parties using my own words.
As for the petition, I can not in good faith sign it as it is written so I will write another, sign and send. Who are you sending the petition to? The same as above?
I am absolutely torn between wanting to see you get some compensation for the state's wrongdoing but am also concerned about the taxpayers picking up the tab. Others from other fires usually don't get compensation from insurance for the land only their homes if they even received compensation. They live with the land the way it is. We live in an area where there is a great potential for fire.
I agree with most of the petition but do not believe that we the taxpayers should pay to bring the property back to how it existed before the fire. There should be some compensation but there does have to be some limit.
Again thank you for keeping us informed as to the progress, or lack thereof, in getting things resolved. I am so very sorry for your losses.
Akilina, I appreciate your very complete research into the wildfire. It's nice to see folks not jumping to conclusions.
Regarding we taxpayers picking up the tab... The CSFS who work for "We the People", screwed up. If any corporation or individual had done this then they would be expected to pay restitution. Case in point is the recent Hewlett Fire in May where a guys camp stove blew over in the wind and started the fire. Here is what happened to him from the news report:
The U.S. Forest Service has said that Weber, a mental health counselor for students at Colorado State University, turned himself in afterwards and has cooperated, but they will seek restitution from him for the blaze.
The Hewlett Fire has cost $3.2 million dollars to date. However, a price tag for restitution is likely months away, according to a spokesperson for the U.S. Department of Justice.
Some factors would include culpability and ability to pay.
If Weber refuses to pay, or cooperate, then the U.S. Department of Justice would sue.
I just want to point one one last time that this was not caused by nature. We know who did it and when the Forest Service knows who did it they seek restitution. We should as well.
This looks like a great book to read: Surviving wildfire: a handbook for homeowners
. I'd be interested to see what any of our residents who've endured this have to think about it - suggestions to add, etc. Should it become required reading for new residents??
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
This looks like a great book to read: Surviving wildfire: a handbook for homeowners
. I'd be interested to see what any of our residents who've endured this have to think about it - suggestions to add, etc. Should it become required reading for new residents??
Special thanks to Marshall Zelinger at 7 News and our State Representative Cheri Gerou for standing up for us.
I am disappointed to no end on how this was all handled and feel this is all political. They just don't want the liability. That fire was disastrously handled actually. The nature of fires is that they do come unexpected but on almost every level there were mistakes and we are lucky there not more fatalities. Bad job Colorado, bad job!
