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Lower North Fork Fire Residents ask: Why no state help?
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14 Apr 2013 08:36 #81
by ScienceChic
NASA Imaging Sensor Prepares for Western Wildfire Season
SOURCE NASA WASHINGTON,
April 11, 2013
For more information about Autonomous Modular Sensor, visit:
http://airbornescience.nasa.gov/instrument/AMS
For more information about NASA, visit:
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"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
Replied by ScienceChic on topic Lower North Fork Fire Residents ask: Why no state help?
Hey deltamrey - check this out! Here's hoping they can get it going in real-time this year...deltamrey wrote: SC----excellent post.......NOW, there are a number of automated systems now available to detect early a fire......bet few are used here.....no conspiracy but the firefighters thrive on the fires.....they have resisted new tech for decades with little reason.....Satellites can read a soup can and with IR sensors pick up body heat in a back yard.....simple stuff.....but I bet not inbtegrated into a detect/evaluation IT system here in CO.....maybe I am wrong. The firefighting establishment is mired in archaic approaches......I root for the recall Evergreen seeing a few engineers are making a run on the current people....
The voting booth is the solution across the board.
NASA Imaging Sensor Prepares for Western Wildfire Season
SOURCE NASA WASHINGTON,
April 11, 2013
Airborne imaging technology developed at NASA and transferred to the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Forest Service (USFS) in 2012 is being tested to prepare for this year's wildfire season in the western United States.
The Autonomous Modular Sensor (AMS) is a scanning spectrometer designed to help detect hot-spots, active fires, and smoldering and post-fire conditions. Scientists at NASA's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, Calif., and USFS engineers installed it on a Cessna Citation aircraft that belongs to the Forest Service. The USFS plans to use it in operational fire imaging and measurement.
For more information about Autonomous Modular Sensor, visit:
http://airbornescience.nasa.gov/instrument/AMS
For more information about NASA, visit:
[url=http://www.nasa.gov" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;]http://www.nasa.gov[/url]
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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14 Apr 2013 08:48 - 15 Apr 2013 15:24 #82
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Thank you @FROGGER - It's neighbors like you that keep us going.
I do know that the KRH folks would appreciate some good BBQ!
As the snow melts we will know more about any organized activity on the land and will let you know. We do expect the state to finally begin work to clear some hazardous trees next to the roads soon so we need to see how that goes first. A contractor has been selected and we are told work will begin next week lasting through August. They will be transporting these trees out of the area since masticating them (chipping) did not work out so well for us where the LNF fire was started.
They plan to use 50 ft. trucks up and down South Deer Creek/High Grade roads + Pleasant Park all summer. This will add to an already congested situation there with the popularity of the route for cyclists. Spread the word so we don't have any abrupt truck/cyclist introductions since they are not used to the traffic.
There are some other updates we will share soon regarding our situation.
Thank you for being great neighbors!
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frogger wrote:
LNFFInfo wrote: Watching Suthers hide from reporters in the know like Marshall Zelinger at 7News was bad enough. However we fully expected him to find another way to continue to spin his web of deceit... He found his safe haven today in the Denver Post: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_22877776?source=bb
Even worse are the reactions of the uninformed in these comments: http://neighbors.denverpost.com/viewtop ... t=22877776
I can't tell you how hurtful and painful it is to victims when they read this.. and yes, they do read this.
Read those responses and just shook my head. Typical flatland mentality.
We are all a bunch of idiots for choosing a quiet, serene place with good neighbors to live in.. How dare us be so stupid. (place sarcasm emoticon here)
I think it is time to show those superior flatlanders what we are made of up here in idiotland.
Do any of you guys need work parties to clear land, plant grass or trees, or start the reconstruction process cause if you do.....our family is happy to come help. Now....we aren't real bright cause we live in this forest with you but we can sure work hard to make sure we take care of our own. Maybe just a transport of a good BBQ pit to cook you folks a nice dinner. You name it. We are there.
Thank you @FROGGER - It's neighbors like you that keep us going.
I do know that the KRH folks would appreciate some good BBQ!
As the snow melts we will know more about any organized activity on the land and will let you know. We do expect the state to finally begin work to clear some hazardous trees next to the roads soon so we need to see how that goes first. A contractor has been selected and we are told work will begin next week lasting through August. They will be transporting these trees out of the area since masticating them (chipping) did not work out so well for us where the LNF fire was started.
They plan to use 50 ft. trucks up and down South Deer Creek/High Grade roads + Pleasant Park all summer. This will add to an already congested situation there with the popularity of the route for cyclists. Spread the word so we don't have any abrupt truck/cyclist introductions since they are not used to the traffic.
There are some other updates we will share soon regarding our situation.
Thank you for being great neighbors!
Last edit: 15 Apr 2013 15:24 by LNFFInfo.
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14 Apr 2013 11:22 #83
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SC....can we coordinate an effort to get together with our neighbors up there and see what we can do to help?
I have been hunting for that groundhog to give him a piece of mind so as soon as it gets warm....let's start making life a little easier for our neighbors.
I have been hunting for that groundhog to give him a piece of mind so as soon as it gets warm....let's start making life a little easier for our neighbors.
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14 Apr 2013 12:50 - 13 Sep 2015 23:37 #84
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"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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I think this would be an excellent project for the
285 Barnraisers
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"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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14 Apr 2013 12:52 #85
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Yeah!
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31 Jan 2014 01:24 - 13 Sep 2015 23:38 #86
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"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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An update:
Victims of the Lower North Fork Wildfire seek restitution from the state
State offers some settlements two years after fire
by Amanda Kost
Posted: 01/30/2014
Victims of the Lower North Fork Wildfire seek restitution from the state
State offers some settlements two years after fire
by Amanda Kost
Posted: 01/30/2014
Read more: www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news...ution-from-the-stateDENVER - Lower North Fork wildfire victims are seeking restitution nearly two years later. The State Claims Board heard claims from five different Lower North Fork Fire cases, including [Kristen] Moeller and [Dave] Cottrell.
Moeller said the state offered a settlement that was below what they asked for, "Doesn't cover all of our losses, but it's enough for us to move on."
They accepted the settlement, but Moeller, Cottrell and other Lower North Fork fire claimants will have to wait for legislative approval and funding before they can receive payment.
There are still unresolved claims from other victims of the Lower North Fork wildfire that have not been settled.
"I think it's important that people know we're not done yet," said Moeller.
ScienceChic wrote: The residents of Kuehster Road have put together a website, created a Facebook Page, a Twitter account, collected their stories on one blog, and saved all of the news videos about it onto a YouTube account in an effort to continue their battle with the state to get the support they deserve. The victims of the Waldo Fire received FEMA support, and are getting special subsidized 1.9% loans...the victims of the LNFF - nothing but stalling, bureaucracy, and hopes that they will wear out and go away.
Please Like/Follow/Subscribe to their social media sites to stay up-to-date as we need to help our neighbors. They are spending their days and money cleaning up their own land from a fire that shouldn't have been started, and was negligently maintained and improperly monitored. Thanks!
Website: http://lnff.info/what-really-happened/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LowerNorthForkFire
Twitter: https://twitter.com/LNFFInfo
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/LNFFinfo
Blog: http://lnff.info/feed/
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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31 Jan 2014 08:59 #87
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Waiting for Armageddon since 33 AD
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Hmmm....
1) The local fire protection district took responsibility in helping put out that fire.
2) The local residents up here took responsibility and voted "yes" on a mill levy increase to help pay for new and better services from their fire protection district.
3) Many homeowners take responsibility and follow fire mitigation guidelines in order to try to minimize damage and death from an advancing fire.
4) Whole communities up here take responsibility to adopt Firewise recommendations to in order to try to minimize damage and death from an advancing fire.
Once again the Political Class has no clue nor do they care about their constituents. It seems over and over that we only exist to put them in jobs and keep them in jobs.
They do give us pablum.
1) The local fire protection district took responsibility in helping put out that fire.
2) The local residents up here took responsibility and voted "yes" on a mill levy increase to help pay for new and better services from their fire protection district.
3) Many homeowners take responsibility and follow fire mitigation guidelines in order to try to minimize damage and death from an advancing fire.
4) Whole communities up here take responsibility to adopt Firewise recommendations to in order to try to minimize damage and death from an advancing fire.
Once again the Political Class has no clue nor do they care about their constituents. It seems over and over that we only exist to put them in jobs and keep them in jobs.
They do give us pablum.
Waiting for Armageddon since 33 AD
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31 Jan 2014 11:52 #88
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And wait til we see what the politicians in the state legislature have in mind for wildfire mitigation this term.
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31 Jan 2014 12:10 #89
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The first thing they can do about fire mitigation is not be responsible for starting them!!!
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GreatGran wrote: And wait til we see what the politicians in the state legislature have in mind for wildfire mitigation this term.
The first thing they can do about fire mitigation is not be responsible for starting them!!!
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31 Jan 2014 14:57 #90
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SC.....a positive use of available technology.....rather than chasing cows in ND.........
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