Republicans? (New topic from I'll be at the Laker Game tonight)

Vice Lord wrote: [

Like I said, Campaign reform- Nobody gets elected without corporate money so they all cater to them to some extent, but there's still a big difference in the parties..There are many votes that come down on party lines..Republicans voting for corporate interests and Democrats voting for the peoples interests..So don't try to drag us down into the S#!t with you. Republicans just got done ruining the world- Not Democrats

Democrats voting for the people's interests? That's like saying the shark is concerned with the chum's health and well-being.

Democrats are creating an entitlement addicted base just to make sure they stay in power. They couldn't care less what happens to the people or the county, as long as their personal finances don't suffer.

And this is still in the "Campfire" area instead of the "Ring" because................?

LadyJazzer wrote: And this is still in the "Campfire" area instead of the "Ring" because................?

Nobody's cussin?

LadyJazzer wrote: And this is still in the "Campfire" area instead of the "Ring" because................?

So that is your input into this conversation? Trying to control speech and complain to the Mods? You are on the wrong site!

This is called discussion and debate LJ. Daycare is the next site over.

Don't get me wrong LJ, I would love to hear your actual input into the discussion. But don't try and change this site and bring other sites rules over here. We are doing just fine.

Vice Lord wrote: Hey, everybody over 65 is a "dependent class of people"- Do you think you're gonna be able to save enough in today's wages to live in tomorrows world? Don't count on it. Nobodies saving, in fact most can't pay their credit cards or keep a roof over their heads right now.

Hey VL, a question for you if not too private. Do you have a pension right now? Are you living off your wealth that you earned? It must be something as you claim to be retired at 47.

If so, how about sharing 50% of your pension with those of us that do not get a pension from our jobs. Or why not have 1/2 of your wealth taxed to pay for the social programs you promote. Sounds like you wouldn't miss it with all your expensive travel habits.

I think all democrats getting a pension should give 1/2 to those who are not fortunate enough to have a pension, its only fair.

Joe wrote:

Vice Lord wrote: Hey, everybody over 65 is a "dependent class of people"- Do you think you're gonna be able to save enough in today's wages to live in tomorrows world? Don't count on it. Nobodies saving, in fact most can't pay their credit cards or keep a roof over their heads right now.

Hey VL, a question for you if not too private. Do you have a pension right now? Are you living off your wealth that you earned? It must be something as you claim to be retired at 47.

If so, how about sharing 50% of your pension with those of us that do not get a pension from our jobs. Or why not have 1/2 of your wealth taxed to pay for the social programs you promote. Sounds like you wouldn't miss it with all your expensive travel habits.

I think all democrats getting a pension should give 1/2 to those who are not fortunate enough to have a pension, its only fair.

We already discussed this. Democrats are only fine with spending 'other' peoples money to help the less fortunate. I guess it is time for me to post the first half of my response to him.

Vice Lord wrote: In my 47 years of experience:

Republicans hate/fear gays, mexicans, almost all foriegners, poor people, single mothers and anybody that needs a little assistance in life. They are mosty grown up insecure pocket protector nerds that could'nt exsist in the dog eat dog world they talk like they want to create. Selfish, self centered and easily minipulated with fear..What kind of man in Conifer Colorado is afraid of terrorists? The odds of being involved in a terrorist attack here are like 8 billion to one, yet these cowards are willing to give up our treasury, are freedoms, everything because they fear this phantom arab bogeyman...The policies they promote go against this rugged freedom loving American image they have of themselves..I see them as the ultimate wimps...

A man never stands so tall as when he stoops down to help the less fortunate amongst us...

OK so I am not sure if you are just trying to stir things up, are totally full of crap, or actually believe what you just wrote, (which means you are either very naïve, uneducated about where Republicans stand, or you are just totally brainwashed by the main stream “media.) Either way, you are totally backwards.

Let’s break it down. You say. “Republicans hate/fear gays, Mexicans, almost all foreigners,” So you think that living in America, wanting to have everyone live by our Constitution and not just come over here and spit on it, means that we are Afraid of Mexicans? Where do you guys come up with this stuff. And I have more friends who are Republicans, who date or are married to people who are minorities. All we want is for the Constitution and our laws when it comes to immigrating to the US, to be followed. That is not hate or fear.

Now if you flip it and really look at the psyche behind the Democrats actions and motives, here is where I think that the actions of Most democrats are far more hurtful and out of fear and control. Racism is brought up almost all of the time by Democrats. And on top of that I believe Democrats keep minorities afraid and believing they can’t make it without the governments help. They continually give them ‘special’ benefits and exemptions just for the color of their skin. Like affirmative action. The Democrats use fear on minorities to keep them voting for them. So I think the Dems are afraid of minorities actually becoming independent and believing in themselves. Then they will think more clearly and realize it has been the Republicans who have been fighting for Minorities and trying to help them become equal and independent all along. Republicans believe in trying to teach them that they aer Americans and not ‘black’ Americans, or ‘Hispanic’ Americans. We are all equal and it is sad the Democrats try to keep them believing differently so they can control them

And as far as Republicans and gays go, many Republicans just believe strongly in the traditional family unit. That does not make us hate them or fear them. I have many friends who are gay and I love them dearly. I would do anything for them. Your fear mongering statement with these does not hold water.

Now lets go with this. “Republicans hate/fear…… poor people, single mothers and anybody that needs a little assistance in life.” This is a huge joke!! Republicans have been proven time after time to donate more time and money to those less fortunate and poor people, give to charities more, and go on mission trips to help those less fortunate. Democrats just want to give away other people’s money to take care of them. They are fine with that as long as they don’t have to dip in their own pocket. So they (people like you) like to sound all self righteous by taking from others to give to the poor. Most Democrats want to take credit for helping the poor and less fortunate just by the votes they give to take other people’s money. You guys try to portray yourselves as the heros for helping them when in fact if it normally the Republican’s money which they would have used to create jobs and help others. So it is in fact in one way or another Republicans that are helping the poor and less fortunate the most. Whether it is by choice or by force by Democrats votes.


Much more to follow. I only responded to the first sentence.

Joe wrote:

Vice Lord wrote: Hey, everybody over 65 is a "dependent class of people"- Do you think you're gonna be able to save enough in today's wages to live in tomorrows world? Don't count on it. Nobodies saving, in fact most can't pay their credit cards or keep a roof over their heads right now.

Hey VL, a question for you if not too private. Do you have a pension right now? Are you living off your wealth that you earned? It must be something as you claim to be retired at 47.

If so, how about sharing 50% of your pension with those of us that do not get a pension from our jobs. Or why not have 1/2 of your wealth taxed to pay for the social programs you promote. Sounds like you wouldn't miss it with all your expensive travel habits.

I think all democrats getting a pension should give 1/2 to those who are not fortunate enough to have a pension, its only fair.

I will collect a union pension when I turn 55 and it will be taxed as income and I'm fine with that..A pension is differed income. The union and the company agreed to that, it's called a contract. It's good for the company because they can defer compensation and its good for the worker because he doesn't have to work until the day he dies..It's good for America. Why should pensioners have to give up half of what they've earned while you shelter your money in retirement 401k's and Roth IRA's?