Rockdoc Franz wrote: Oh I do believe in being prepared. There is no panic in any of this, just a heads up and shaping of a plan that can be invoked when the need arises. We put the word out here and work through 285 bound.
Preparing and planning ahead - two of my favorite things to do! Let's do it!
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
Rockdoc Franz wrote: Oh I do believe in being prepared. There is no panic in any of this, just a heads up and shaping of a plan that can be invoked when the need arises. We put the word out here and work through 285 bound.
I'm always suprised how people put so much importance on their own lives. They gotta save themselves at all costs! They'll give up constitutional rights forever to be a little safer today. And why would people even wanna survive a nuculear holocuast, astriod strike, YellowStone exploding causing endless winters or sevre economic desiasters even.....
Hey chicken littles...Were all gonna die sometime and if any of those things happen..It's your time, don't worry about it
Friends: Just quit obsessing on worse case scenarios and enjoy what time you got here.....Me? I'm playing golf today, then me and lil precious might catch the last first class flight to Vegas Tonight. I'll pick up a few racing forms at check in desk at the Palms, we'll have a late night dinner looking out over the strip, have sex in our personal hot tub in the Hot Pink suite, then smoke a joint and watch a pay per view on the giant flat screen in our bedroom.
I'll be at the Palms Place pool, sportsbook, returaunts, spa, shopping in Lake Las Vegas, or at my brothers house with Lil Precious and my Super Model Daughter guys..I gotta be back a few days befre football season starts..See ya then.
deltamrey wrote: CG - in part correct. The folks there (I am not) by incorporation control their community.......we do not. The Wall Mart thing is minor (the core of Evergreen is not that little center off I70). The cash at the core comes mostly from Denver - people choose to live there because of the excellent services and amenities. I predict we will evolve to a real town - the sooner the better.
Yes, you have no MEDICAL at all up there. If you notice anytime there is any medical emergency they have to call in a helicopter. You don't have enough services or stores to keep your community running. No offense but should I decide to live in the mountains I would live in Evergreen over 285 corridor. I am not knocking it by any means, I think some like it that way, but I get the willies living in places that don't enough medical services. If you ask me, some one needs to research and start an effort to do just what you suggest.
Some of the problem is that you are in between. If you lived just a bit farther away you would HAVE to get all these services but you are a bedroom community whether you like to admit it or not and you are sucking off the Denver tit. This, is why in my view. Now how to solve that is another completely different subject. And I do watch from afar and up close. MHO. It may just be an attitude because for some reason Evergreen is more self sufficient.
I think how effective this kind of thinking depends on what level of trouble we face- and how soon. Hyperinflation could eat at us slowly or it could hit us all of a sudden, with things like food costs doubling in a month- and again a month later. History tells us in places like Argentina and England, Germany and many countries in Africa- hyperinflation can hit suddenly, and de-valuation of our money can happen very quickly. Be prepared to deal with your cash in a hurry- able to convert it to a commodity.
I had an opportunity since 2008 to have conservations with my grandparents before they passed away last year- about the depression era- they lived through the depression. My grandfather was born in 1918- which made him 12 years old in 1930 when the depression era started. For the next 15 years, they experienced the depression and it shaped their entire lives.
I asked grandma if what she saw happening was similar to the depression years and she said "oh yea- this is exactly how those first years were".
I agree with many of the suggestions posted- get yourself as ready as you can be for harder times ahead. It won't hurt even if things get better.
Prepare yourself; your home and your property to become as independant as possible. We are at a major disadavantage as compared to the 1930's - when a much larger percentage of our population lived in rural areas, and had the skills to grow and prepare and store food. they were able to grow things in excess of what they needed, which gave many families a product to trade. We do not have the resources they did back then- most of us live on a few acres or less and our area does not have a good growing season. We will need to store things like food - and have access to water that does not depend upon a municiple water source.
It depends on how bad things get- just a few weeks without our normal utilities will have people in a panic, especially if they live in the city which is so close to us.
The government is ready for a national emergency- they have prepared to cut off our communications. With one emergency order- the internet - our cell phones - our home phones - and our GPS system can be shut off. Gasoline will run out in a few days. Propane in our tanks will run out, natural gas will stop flowing in a few days- and no more would be delivered. The mail would stop coming.
Be prepared to feed yourself- this can be done without too much expense.
Be prepared to pump water- have a water source accessable that does not depend upon any utility company.
Be prepared to defend your property and your family members.
Be prepared to communicate without any other support other than what you provide for yourself- no phone company or internet service- both locally and nationally to keep yourself as informed of our condition.
This means being able to recieve and deploy communications. We will need to communicate with each other locally in order to protect our community, just having a few guns and ammo will not be enough, we will need to band together as neighbors to protect ourselves and our property.
We will need to coordinate with each other to be effective, what you neighbor sees coming a mile down the road could be life and death information.
Put yourself and your home and your property through stress tests, unplug that modem, shut off that cell phone, disconnect the telephone and the GPS for a few days- how are you doing?
Don't shop at a store or buy any product or service for a few weeks- do you have everything you need to be independant? Switch off the main electric breaker on your electric service, are you still doing ok after a few days?
We are lucky to have wood around us- make sure you have a wood stove or other means of keeping warm and cooking food without utilities or electric. These are my first thoughts, and there's alot more where that came from.
Vice Lord wrote: I'll be at the Palms Place pool with Lil Precious and my Super Model Daughter guys..See ya in 14 days
What? They don't have internet there. Even SC was able to sign on in Hawaii. Sounds second rate to me.
I'll be very, very busy with my bucket of Miller Lites, my smoke, and my Racing Forms. I've sat with Matt Damon, Britney Sprears, Lady Gaga, Roseanne Barr, Cheyenne Silver and many other big stars by that pool and that bar (simon) right there. I mean we are always the biggest losers there
I think how effective this kind of thinking depends on what level of trouble we face- and how soon. Hyperinflation could eat at us slowly or it could hit us all of a sudden, with things like food costs doubling in a month- and again a month later. History tells us in places like Argentina and England, Germany and many countries in Africa- hyperinflation can hit suddenly, and de-valuation of our money can happen very quickly. Be prepared to deal with your cash in a hurry- able to convert it to a commodity.
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I cut out much of your good advice only because I wanted to focus on the one thing that some wish to ignore. That is really the key. I'm hoping for the best, but do not want to be caught unprepared. Many of the things recommended by the generation that has gone through such difficult times are not difficult to implement, yet easy to ignore because the perception of the problem is not real enough ...yet. Different strokes for different folks. That is fine by me. My mother lived through the hard times following WWI and WWII. Some of her words echo strongly in my thoughts these days. It is her description of the times leading up and through those times that reverberate in parallel with what I see happening now. I'd be a fool to ignore her advice, just like you Bear would be a fool to ignore your grandparents perceptions of the developing economic parallels. Yes, we all will die sometime. Some of us sooner than others, but I've got a beautiful family with whom I'd like to spend as much time as possible and that means I look ahead and do what I can to let it happen. I'll be the ant harvesting all summer for the winter while Vl can be the grasshopper doing what he does best.. What is that?
Honestly, I think the biggest risk most people face is loss of income. If you lose your income, most people are pretty quickly going to lose their homes and everything else. It's important to store some emergency food and water (I've done so for years) but it doesn't do you much good if you get kicked out of your home. People need to make plans to how they could survive without a job Think in terms of multiple streams of income to act as a cushion. I lived for a while in Northern New England and most of the rural families up there had jobs, but they also did a little maple sugaring, sold Christmas trees and wreaths, sold firewood or craft items or woodworking items on the side.
With the internet today, most people could make a living (so long as the power stays on, that is!) much easier than those families up there in Vermont and New Hampshire. Having a backup plan or alternate income source is a MUST in this economy, in my opinion. The problem is that most people have far too big of a monthly "nut". Mortgage payment, one or two car payments, credit card payments, satellite TV, expensive cell plans, it can run to a lot of money every month. I'd be sitting down right now with paper and pencil and see how many of those expenses you can eliminate even if you still have a good job. Most of us can't just go and pay off our mortgages tomorrow, but ALL of us could, if we really wanted to, get rid of the car payments and credit cards and cellphones.
Preparing and planning ahead - two of my favorite things to do! 
