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Wily Fox aka Angela wrote: these are the images that the GOP has to live down.
[center:38ryzeuw]http://www2.timesdispatch.com/mgmedia/image/0/354/216219/state-capitol/
Virginia State Police guarded the steps of the state Capitol during today's protest by abortion-rights demonstrators.[/center:38ryzeuw]
BIG MEN WITH BIG BULLY CLUBS stand up to a peaceful protest of WOMEN, for crikey's sake.
They are BULLIES, nothing more, nothing less. This will come back on them. This will be another year of the woman and I predict that the Strikeforce will be successful to vote out all the men that voted for this in VA.
(btw, you can try to turn this into an abortion thread, but that will only mean that you still don't get it. Don't get women pissed off. We can stand some nonsense, but when you start treating us as chattel, then it's on)
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Wily Fox aka Angela wrote:
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(btw, you can try to turn this into an abortion thread, but that will only mean that you still don't get it. Don't get women pissed off. We can stand some nonsense, but when you start treating us as chattel, then it's on)
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Here's the logic fail on the part of the Republicans and the Blunt Amendment's "moral objection" clause: where does it stop? Who is the ultimate decider? What if the CEO of a corporation is a Scandinavian Lutheran who does not want to include coverage for circumcision, but the Board of Directors has a minority percentage of Jews who do? What if the President of the company is a Christian Scientist and wants to eliminate coverage for blood transfusions, but the Chief Operating Officer has a son who is a hemophiliac and wants it covered? Or a head of a company is a Scientologist and believes that psychiatry and psychiatric drugs are a racket and refuses to include that despite the fact that the head of Human Resources and the person who negotiates with the insurance company has been struggling with clinical depression? Who gets the final say in what kind of coverage an employer can have a moral objection to?
Therein lies the problem. Companies and corporations are not corporeal beings. They are non-living fictitious entities. They have no faith, because they are not a person. Not even a Jesuit institution, such as Georgetown University. The university itself holds no faith. Its Board of Directors even includes a Sunni Muslim woman. It employs Catholics and non-Catholics alike. It accepts non-Catholics as students. Those students pay a significant tuition for the prestige of attending the law school, and even pay their share of premiums for health insurance. All that was asked was that the coverage include a full range of women's health needs. Not for taxpayers to subsidize it. And then in turn, the individual women could follow the tenets of their own faith as they saw fit and either make use of the coverage or not.
Strategically, I don't know how even this little spin helps the Republicans. "Religious liberty" may sound impressive and a high-minded philosophical argument, but Americans know what the real world application and consequences would mean to them. When 99 percent of American women of child-bearing age use contraception for responsible family planning at one time or another, and you threaten their access to it under the guise that some fictitious entity's "faith" supersedes their own, you've got a pretty hard sell that this isn't a War on Women.
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LadyJazzer wrote: The GOP hasn't "gotten it" for years... That's why, (particularly after the last couple of weeks) that WOMEN have defected from the GOP, and the number is down 18%...
They can take their patriarchal Limbaugh-inspired "slut" business and cry all the way to the ballot-box.
Just keep doin' what yer doin'....
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FredHayek wrote: So $3000 was just an absurd figure she threw out then?
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FredHayek wrote:
LadyJazzer wrote: The GOP hasn't "gotten it" for years... That's why, (particularly after the last couple of weeks) that WOMEN have defected from the GOP, and the number is down 18%...
They can take their patriarchal Limbaugh-inspired "slut" business and cry all the way to the ballot-box.
Just keep doin' what yer doin'....
So the women stayed home in 2010? Will the women stay home in 2012? And aren't there a lot of women at TEA Party events?
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