Obamacare Stands/Insurance Mandate, er, Tax Upheld

28 Jun 2012 09:40 #41 by Reverend Revelant

Something the Dog Said wrote:

The Blunt Ugly Truth wrote: So….the next round of lawsuits will be to declare that the “mandate”…er…”tax” is not a lawful tax. Roberts is either sly as a fox or too clever by half.

If you bother to read the decision, Roberts held that the penalty was within the taxing power of Congress, thus legal.


Thank you for contradicting President Obama...

OBAMA: No, but — but, George, you — you can’t just make up that language and decide that that’s called a tax increase. Any…

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... not-a-tax/


It looks like the SCOTUS just made up the language for Obama.

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28 Jun 2012 09:44 #42 by pineinthegrass
I found it interesting that Justice Roberts was the deciding vote, and that Kennedy did not join him. Roberts also sided with the liberals on the Arizona immigration case as well.

Is it possible Roberts will become GW's version of Souter, who his father picked? Or will Roberts be more like a Kennedy? Or is this week just a fluke?

Personally, I'd rather have a court of Kennedy's and maybe Roberts rather than the lock-step ideologues we have on both ends of the spectrum.

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28 Jun 2012 09:50 #43 by Nobody that matters

The Blunt Ugly Truth wrote: The states won this one.


At least there's a crumb of sensibility in this decision somwhere....

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28 Jun 2012 09:56 #44 by Something the Dog Said

The Blunt Ugly Truth wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote:

The Blunt Ugly Truth wrote: So….the next round of lawsuits will be to declare that the “mandate”…er…”tax” is not a lawful tax. Roberts is either sly as a fox or too clever by half.

If you bother to read the decision, Roberts held that the penalty was within the taxing power of Congress, thus legal.


Thank you for contradicting President Obama...

OBAMA: No, but — but, George, you — you can’t just make up that language and decide that that’s called a tax increase. Any…

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... not-a-tax/


It looks like the SCOTUS just made up the language for Obama.


I have not contradicted anyone. I merely provided you information in regard to Justice Robert's holding, since you apparently do not have the ability to read the decision yourself.

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28 Jun 2012 10:01 #45 by LadyJazzer

Something the Dog Said wrote: I have not contradicted anyone. I merely provided you information in regard to Justice Robert's holding, since you apparently do not have the ability to read the decision yourself.


It's so hard to have a conversation when reading-comprehension is a barrier....

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28 Jun 2012 10:02 #46 by Reverend Revelant

Something the Dog Said wrote:

The Blunt Ugly Truth wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote:

The Blunt Ugly Truth wrote: So….the next round of lawsuits will be to declare that the “mandate”…er…”tax” is not a lawful tax. Roberts is either sly as a fox or too clever by half.

If you bother to read the decision, Roberts held that the penalty was within the taxing power of Congress, thus legal.


Thank you for contradicting President Obama...

OBAMA: No, but — but, George, you — you can’t just make up that language and decide that that’s called a tax increase. Any…

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... not-a-tax/


It looks like the SCOTUS just made up the language for Obama.


I have not contradicted anyone. I merely provided you information in regard to Justice Robert's holding, since you apparently do not have the ability to read the decision yourself.


A tax can be challenged... that was my only point. Thanks for playing.

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28 Jun 2012 10:03 #47 by LadyJazzer
Romney: "On my first day I will act to repeal Obamacare"... rofllol :lol: rofllol :lol:

Yeah, you do that... rofllol :lol:

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28 Jun 2012 10:05 #48 by Reverend Revelant

Democracy4Sale wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote: I have not contradicted anyone. I merely provided you information in regard to Justice Robert's holding, since you apparently do not have the ability to read the decision yourself.


It's so hard to have a conversation when reading-comprehension is a barrier....


Comprehend this... it is a tax. (Didn't Obama say something about not raising taxes for anyone making under $250,000?)

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28 Jun 2012 10:07 - 28 Jun 2012 10:09 #49 by LOL
I haven't read all the briefs and opinions, but it still seems like it's regulation of commerce/ Commerce clause since the required plan benefits are highly detailed by HHS and the Feds. I know my current individual plan that I "don't really get to keep" doesn't meet Obama-care standards in 2014

Looks like I get to join the "Looters" as BearMtn says. Where do I sign up?

I think I'll take the gold or platinum plan, which ever costs more. :)

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28 Jun 2012 10:09 #50 by BearMtnHIB
The looters win today- another 20% of the economy now under government control.

Welcome to the socialist states of what used to be America. The only good thing is- the left will have to live with the consequences along with the rest of us.

Free health care for all- paid for by the producers, who are fewer and fewer these days.

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