Obama Insults Small Business Owners

15 Jul 2012 18:28 #1 by otisptoadwater
By Todd Starnes



President Obama insulted small business owners during a campaign stop in Roanoke, Va. on Saturday.

“If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that,” Obama told the crowd. “Somebody else made that happen.”

President Obama said successful Americans did not become successful on their own — they had help.

“If you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own,” he said. “You didn’t get there on your own.”

“The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together,” he said. “There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.”

“If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help,” he said. “There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.”

Read more: http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/obama-insults-small-business-owners.html

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15 Jul 2012 18:38 #2 by Something the Dog Said
How the hell is that an insult? Every successful business has had help, whether from their education, their family, their faith, their customers, etc. No business is successful in a vacuum. What an idiotic post.

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15 Jul 2012 18:47 #3 by Reverend Revelant

Something the Dog Said wrote: How the hell is that an insult? Every successful business has had help, whether from their education, their family, their faith, their customers, etc. No business is successful in a vacuum. What an idiotic post.


"If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen." I'm an independent contract programmer. No one else MADE that happen. I made it happen.

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15 Jul 2012 18:49 #4 by ScienceChic
It's not an idiotic post, that was quoted from the story - it was an idiotic take on the president's speech.

Here's what was said after the quote above from the transcript:

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. ...We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that’s the reason I’m running for President — because I still believe in that idea. You’re not on your own, we’re in this together.

Now will some make a case for saying that that's a "socialist" idea? Maybe. But I would say that we also used to rely on each other a whole lot more than we do now - we used to help each other build our homes, farm the lands in a community, hunt, even survive. We are a social species, and everything is interconnected. I think this author is taking a small portion of this speech out of context.

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

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15 Jul 2012 18:50 #5 by Something the Dog Said

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote: How the hell is that an insult? Every successful business has had help, whether from their education, their family, their faith, their customers, etc. No business is successful in a vacuum. What an idiotic post.


"If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen." I'm an independent contract programmer. No one else MADE that happen. I made it happen.


Who taught you to program? Who hires you to program?

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15 Jul 2012 19:13 #6 by otisptoadwater
Plenty of people have acted on their own to open a business and promote their products on their own. In fact it is one of the stones in the foundation of the American dream, people who work hard and provide goods and services to their communities do so at their own peril. Those who find the magic combination of a good or service at the right price that is in demand will enjoy the fruits of their labors (or at least that used to be how it worked). On the other hand, if you could set up a pig ear sandwich stand in downtown Palo Alto and discover that the demand for your product isn't high enough to support your business.

Individuals build and operate their own small businesses; being told they didn't get there on their own is nothing less than an insult to individuals who took the risk and succeeded or failed on their own.

Of course those who support Barry can't comprehend this simple concept. Right wing extremists are attacking their Glorious Leader, there is no acceptable response except to defend everything and anything the Glorious Leader says, does, or infers. After all, it's for the good of the Mother land and the Glorious Leader.

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15 Jul 2012 19:19 #7 by Something the Dog Said

otisptoadwater wrote: Plenty of people have acted on their own to open a business and promote their products on their own. In fact it is one of the stones in the foundation of the American dream, people who work hard and provide goods and services to their communities do so at their own peril. Those who find the magic combination of a good or service at the right price that is in demand will enjoy the fruits of their labors (or at least that used to be how it worked). On the other hand, if you could set up a pig ear sandwich stand in downtown Palo Alto and discover that the demand for your product isn't high enough to support your business.

Individuals build and operate their own small businesses; being told they didn't get there on their own is nothing less than an insult to individuals who took the risk and succeeded or failed on their own.

Of course those who support Barry can't comprehend this simple concept. Right wing extremists are attacking their Glorious Leader, there is no acceptable response except to defend everything and anything the Glorious Leader says, does, or infers. After all, it's for the good of the Mother land and the Glorious Leader.

OK, SC, I would call that an idiotic post, but out of respect for you I will not. Again, you failed to address my point that no successful business operates in a vacuum, that it requires much more whether that be education, family support, faith, customers, employees, etc. It is no insult to consider those factors and many more that go into the mix to make a successful business.

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15 Jul 2012 19:29 #8 by ScienceChic

otisptoadwater wrote: Individuals build and operate their own small businesses; being told they didn't get there on their own is nothing less than an insult to individuals who took the risk and succeeded or failed on their own.

See, I disagree with this one point, because as STDS said, no business operates in a vacuum. (And no, I don't wholeheartedly support Obama) :biggrin: I operate a small business, but I couldn't have built it myself, no way, no how. It took the work of many individuals (those who came up with the concept, those who built the forum, those who first joined as volunteers, those first members who jumped in and populated it with posts, the businesses who took a chance on a fledgling business, etc), and to continue requires the support of many more. I can work my ass off, but unless I continue to have good tech support, posters who continue to enjoy participating here, great volunteers, and Business Partners to help support my efforts to serve the community, this site and this business dies. Period. We are all interconnected, as I told the group of non-profits that met last week, and the Pleasant Park Grange group, whom were kind enough to invite me to speak to them yesterday. A community is made up of individuals, businesses, and non-profits - we all need each other, rely on each others services and goods, and we all support one another; individuals by patronizing a business, giving money or time and effort to a non-profit, non-profits by helping community members in need and using local businesses services and goods to do so, and businesses by providing a product or service that the customers rely upon, and by also donating money and time and effort to non-profits. It's the circle of life. :biggrin:

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15 Jul 2012 19:30 #9 by Reverend Revelant
Sorry Dog... you who parses a sentence to the point of ridiculousness... I can play the same game...

"If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."

you=business=you=didn't=somebody else=made it happen.

Bullsh*t. I made it happen. I did the footwork. I sold myself. I taught myself how to program back when the only thing you had to compute with were those square wooden frames with the beads on it. I didn't go to college. I started work two days after the let me out of High School (they passed me just to get me out of their hair)... and I haven't stopped working yet. And there are thousands of independent businessmen, one man shops, people grinding out a product or a service, and they built it... themselves... and the "somebody" are the people who NEED their service, not the other way around.

Parse that puppy.

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15 Jul 2012 19:59 #10 by Rick
Individuals like me have also paid for our education, we gave great value to those who employed us, and most of all, we took risk and worked our asses off to become successful. I think Obama has this ideology that tells him everyone has the same desire for success, if only they had the same opportunity. Well that's all butterfies and rainbows, but we all know where success starts... it starts in the home from zero to 18. If somebody doesn't want to work for that education it's most likely the fault of the parents, or lack of (and by working, I mean giving it your all). I think by using this kind of language, you really have to include the fact that there will be more people failing as failure becomes more normal.

Getting help along the way can be important, but it's not neccessary if you pay your way though crappy jobs and hard work. My best friend had a horrible start out of high school and always worked two jobs so that he could eventually quit one to go to Metro. He wouldn't be a successful business owner today had he not put in that hard work.

I also just don't think President Obama should be lecturing business owners about how they got to where they are without knowing what price they paid individually. And come on, what experiences of Obamas makes him credible enough to school those who have actually been successful in business?

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