LOL wrote: I still think it was a subtle message to guilt people into accepting higher tax rates at the top end. You owe something back, more than today's rates, even though businesses pay higher property taxes, and generate lots of sales and payroll taxes already. Not to mention healthcare and other bennies. Don't re-invest profits in growing your business, send them to Obama instead. LOL
Great point, at least in Colorado, businesses pay much higher property taxes than agricultural and residential. And depending where your business is, you could be paying premiums for utilities, inventory tax, payroll tax, medicare tax, etc.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
Science Chic wrote: I think he was trying to make the audience feel connected with one another, to remind people of the ties that bind a community and a country, not slam on small business owners...
If that's what he was shooting for, there's a speech writer somewhere that desperately needs to be fired.
That was my thought after re-reading through the transcript. Either that, or Obama did a piss-poor job of reading the speech as it was written and shouldn't be allowed to improvise.
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Science Chic wrote: You ran out the door too fast!
I offered to help... eek... did I just out myself as a closet liberal?
rofllol No political affiliation required to help/discriminated against here, and don't worry, I'll protect your reputation...what little of it is left. How good are you at press releases?
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
Science Chic wrote: You ran out the door too fast!
I offered to help... eek... did I just out myself as a closet liberal?
I know of a local non-profit that needs someone to develop a spreadsheet customized for them. If you would be interested in volunteering you can PM me.
Blazer Bob wrote: I can not disagree with much of what you said. The question is do we have 10 years. The US will probably bail out California but there is no one to bail out the US. My hope is that the tea party contingent becomes strong enough to hold Romney's feet to the fire.
on that note wrote: If my strategy is to get Obama out, then I should vote for Romney, but that is not my goal in this election, though it is one of my desires.
My political goal is to get freedom in business and my personal life. Voting for either flavor of heavy control won't get me to my goal.
We need to wake people up to realize that govt does not have the solutions to our problems, we do. We just need them to protect basic liberties and contracts and the rest we will optimize.
Since Obama wants to fix everything with govt influence and new ideas, I cannot vote for him. Also the rampant jailing of citizens etc. disqualify him.
Since Romney wants to fix everything with govt influence and old ideas, I cannot vote for him. Also after living under him in MA and hearing his comments on govt control of things.
I agree that some of us may be better off in 2years if Romney is in. We will all be better off in 10 if we get people off this R/D control crap and simply reduce the size of govt so that we are not slowed down any more.
Our short sightedness got us here (Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter....), do we really think if we have the same arguments with the same options that we have been trying for decades that things will change. They will just be more of the same and Romney and Obama are only 1% different, which leaves 99% the same.
It's all just a little bit of history repeating, unless we don't repeat it.
Rinse, Lather, Repeat as needed.....it's not needed.
The biggest issues in the US right now is the number of citizens that are locked up, yet neither of these guys talk about this very much, they keep pretending like they are running the economy, when what they are running is the jails.
There is always time to do a job right. Romney is just more control with a different flag. We need to reduce central planning and increase our ability to move forward. Less regs and more individual control. Romney does not represent that. Either way the president only appoints people and leads the troops, people need to start focusing on the local crap and the legislatures...the president is pretty much no power to change the daily lives of people. He has very specific other duties. It is only false marketing that says otherwise. Accept it too much and it may become reality.
I take that speech more as a speech of a civilian telling the legislature what he wants, people should go out and make more of their own speeches and tell the govt what they expect of them. I guess in the end, we made it news, when it was not worthy.
Oh and Heck Yeah, it is an insult, but really has nothing to do with govt. Citizens insult me all the time. And if people want to start the rally cry of telling business owners, esp small business owners they owe more to someone else....see how that goes over for them...you cannot get blood from a stone, even with the internet.
Something Park County voters did in the Primary for County Commissioners. More to come in our state and national legislatures. A message will be sent.
Taking the lesser to two evils, the President does in fact carry a lot of weight. Just look at the ridiculous executive orders and appt to SCOTUS.
IN NOVEMBER 2014, WE HAVE A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAN OUT THE ENTIRE HOUSE AND ONE-THIRD OF THE SENATE! DONT BLOW IT!
“When white man find land, Indians running it, no taxes, no debt, plenty buffalo, plenty beaver, clean water. Women did all the work, Medicine man free. Indian man spend all day hunting and fishing; all night having sex. Only whit man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that.” Indian Chief Two Eagles
Any vote for a 3rd party is a vote for Obama.
At this time we need to re-adjust the current admin then continue to clean up the mess.
One day people will awake from the $$$ thrown at commercials and actually read what a candidate stands for and researchs real information instead of the BS.
