Obama Insults Small Business Owners

19 Jul 2012 17:10 #101 by Martin Ent Inc

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19 Jul 2012 17:36 #102 by Soulshiner

Ryt_Rick wrote:

Soulshiner wrote: "There are a lot of people in government who help us and allow us to have an economy that works and allow entrepenuers and business leaders of various kinds to start businesses and create jobs. We all recognize that. That's an important thing." - Mitt Romney

"I know that you recognize that a lot of people help you in a business. Perhaps the banks, the investors. There's no question your mom and dad. Your school teachers. The people that provide roads, the fire, and the police. A lot of people help." - Mitt Romney

You forgot the part of the context where he said we all pay for that help.


Ah, so NOW you're interested in context?

President Obama said successful Americans did not become successful on their own — they had help.

“If you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own,” he said. “You didn’t get there on your own.”

“The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together,” he said. “There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.”

“If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help,” he said. “There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.”

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19 Jul 2012 17:38 #103 by LadyJazzer

We Don' Need No Steenkin' Context...

Mitt Romney Takes Obama Remark About Business Out Of Context

Mitt Romney on Tuesday seized on a recent remark by President Barack Obama to paint him as anti-business, but he took it out of context.

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that, somebody else made that happen," Obama said Friday.

Speaking Tuesday in Irwin, Pa., Romney called the remark "startling and revealing" and said that it was "extraordinary that a philosophy of that nature would be spoken by a president of the United States.

He ran with the idea. "The idea that Steve Jobs didn’t build Apple, that Henry Ford didn’t build Ford Motors, that Papa John didn’t build Papa Johns, that Ray Kraut didn’t build McDonalds, that Bill Gates didn’t build Microsoft," Romney said. "It's not just foolishness, its insulting to every entrepreneur, every innovator in America and it’s wrong."

But in his reaction to the remark, Romney ignored its original context. When he made the comment in Roanoke, Va. Friday, Obama was arguing that businesses needed infrastructure investment to succeed.

"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help," Obama said. "There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."

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19 Jul 2012 17:39 #104 by archer
It was certainly a bad choice of words....he'll be paying for that for a while, kinda like Romney paid for the statement...."corporations are people, my friend". It will blow over as the next outrage takes it's place. This ad season is already tiresome....the figures I saw tonight on the news is 89% of Obama's ads were negative and 94% of Romney's ads were negative ....those numbers are just insane. I am sick of it all!!!!!!!!!!!!

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19 Jul 2012 18:01 #105 by Reverend Revelant

Soulshiner wrote:

Ryt_Rick wrote:

Soulshiner wrote: "There are a lot of people in government who help us and allow us to have an economy that works and allow entrepenuers and business leaders of various kinds to start businesses and create jobs. We all recognize that. That's an important thing." - Mitt Romney

"I know that you recognize that a lot of people help you in a business. Perhaps the banks, the investors. There's no question your mom and dad. Your school teachers. The people that provide roads, the fire, and the police. A lot of people help." - Mitt Romney

You forgot the part of the context where he said we all pay for that help.


Ah, so NOW you're interested in context?

President Obama said successful Americans did not become successful on their own — they had help.

“If you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own,” he said. “You didn’t get there on your own.”

“The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together,” he said. “There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.”

“If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help,” he said. “There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.”


He was totally in context. "Somebody else made..." in the real world means "you didn't make." There's only one way to parse that sentence. You got a reading comprehension problem?

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19 Jul 2012 18:17 #106 by Raees

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

Soulshiner wrote:

Ryt_Rick wrote:

Soulshiner wrote: "There are a lot of people in government who help us and allow us to have an economy that works and allow entrepenuers and business leaders of various kinds to start businesses and create jobs. We all recognize that. That's an important thing." - Mitt Romney

"I know that you recognize that a lot of people help you in a business. Perhaps the banks, the investors. There's no question your mom and dad. Your school teachers. The people that provide roads, the fire, and the police. A lot of people help." - Mitt Romney

You forgot the part of the context where he said we all pay for that help.


Ah, so NOW you're interested in context?

President Obama said successful Americans did not become successful on their own — they had help.

“If you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own,” he said. “You didn’t get there on your own.”

“The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together,” he said. “There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.”

“If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help,” he said. “There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.”


He was totally in context. "Somebody else made..." in the real world means "you didn't make." There's only one way to parse that sentence. You got a reading comprehension problem?


They were discussing context, which is obviously lost on you.

con·text/ˈkäntekst/

Noun:

The circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed.
The parts of something written or spoken that immediately precede and follow a word or passage and clarify its meaning.

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19 Jul 2012 18:33 #107 by Reverend Revelant

Raees wrote: They were discussing context, which is obviously lost on you.

con·text/ˈkäntekst/

Noun:

The circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed.
The parts of something written or spoken that immediately precede and follow a word or passage and clarify its meaning.


Nothing is lost on me... "If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."

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19 Jul 2012 18:35 #108 by Rick
Context doesn't change this: ""If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."

Tell me what else that could possibly mean.

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19 Jul 2012 18:35 #109 by FredHayek
Sorry. The context line is simply crap. Obama and his speechwriter honestly believe all good comes from government. They are trying to play down the innovation and efforts of entrepreneurs.

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