Joe Biden: Romney Will Bring Back Slavery.

pineinthegrass wrote:

FredHayek wrote:

archer wrote: Joe was certainly a better choice for Obama than Ryan is for Romney.

lol Conservatives are eagerly waiting for the bloodbath that will be the VP debate.

Biden couldn't even put away political lightweight Palin in their debate.

And was Biden pandering to the African-Americans in the crowd (not that pandering is anything unusual in politics)? I get metaphors, but he said "they gonna put ya'll back in chains". He didn't need the word "back" in there. Without it, I could see a general metaphor. But when he says you'll be back in chains it comes across as being a much more specific reference.

Only a racist would think that. His reference was to Wall Street, that Romney would overturn the banking regulation brought about by President Obama which would enable Wall Street (a metaphor for the financial industry) to once again shackle the average american.

PrintSmith wrote:

Democracy4Sale wrote: Or:

"Join me in welcoming the next president of the United States, Paul Ryan." –Mitt Romney, committing a gaffe while introducing his running mate, Norfolk, Va., Aug. 11, 2012

Gee, you'd think he would remember what office his running-mate is running for...

Reminds me of when Obama did the same thing in the '08 race introducing Biden. The gotcha's may be entertaining, but are really of little consequence or barometers of any import.

More relevant is the blatant race card that Biden played with his remarks about returning black people to chains. A Republican can't even talk about calling a spade a spade when the reference pertains to shovels without the left getting apoplectic, let alone the wailing and gnashing of teeth that a direct reference to Democratic policies putting people back in chains would result in.

What a lie! Where did Biden say anything about returning black people to chains? What a lie!

Something the Dog Said wrote:

pineinthegrass wrote:

FredHayek wrote:

archer wrote: Joe was certainly a better choice for Obama than Ryan is for Romney.

lol Conservatives are eagerly waiting for the bloodbath that will be the VP debate.

Biden couldn't even put away political lightweight Palin in their debate.

And was Biden pandering to the African-Americans in the crowd (not that pandering is anything unusual in politics)? I get metaphors, but he said "they gonna put ya'll back in chains". He didn't need the word "back" in there. Without it, I could see a general metaphor. But when he says you'll be back in chains it comes across as being a much more specific reference.

Only a racist would think that. His reference was to Wall Street, that Romney would overturn the banking regulation brought about by President Obama which would enable Wall Street (a metaphor for the financial industry) to once again shackle the average american.

All you got is playing the race card?

I explained my opinion. Again, the word "back" was unnecessary if all Biden ment to do was use a metaphor. But instead you claim anyone who dares disagree with you is a racist. Typical of you.

Shackles and chains describing bankers? Seems more like a reference to slavery to me than lessening of corporate regulations. Consider this, despite the new regulations of Sarbanes Oxley & Dodd-Frank, fraud is still going on at high rates on Wall Street. Sounds like the administration just doesn't care about the voters.

FredHayek wrote: Shackles and chains describing bankers? Seems more like a reference to slavery to me than lessening of corporate regulations. Consider this, despite the new regulations of Sarbanes Oxley & Dodd-Frank, fraud is still going on at high rates on Wall Street. Sounds like the administration just doesn't care about the voters.

Didn't Romney first use the "shackles on wall street" analogy....was he being racist?

Let's compare the accomplishments of Vice President Biden and Congressman Ryan:

Ryan:
Drove the weinermobile
Passed two bills, one renaming a post office, the other lowering the excise taxes slightly on arrows. The last legislation that he passed was in 2006.

Wow!

Biden:
public defender
private attorney
property manager
Raised two young sons as a single parent after the death of his wife
passed 456 bills, including anti-terrorist, crime preventiion, authored almost every federal crime bill in the last 15 years, anti-steriods act, Violence against Women Act, crimes against children, bill to protect veterans assistance funding, bills to protect military personnel benefits, and on and on.

Biden has been a leader of the congressional effort to end genocide in Darfur.
In the late 1990s, Biden led the effort in the Senate to bring Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic into NATO and to pass the Chemical Weapons Treaty.
Biden has been instrumental in crafting almost every major piece of crime legislation over the past two decades. His Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 put more than 100,000 police officers on America's streets and has been credited with bringing crime rates down to the lowest point in a generation.
In 1996, Biden authored legislation to create a national registry of sex offenders, which tracks people convicted of sex crimes involving violence or committed against minors.
Biden authored and passed the landmark Violence Against Women Act, the strongest legislation to date that criminalizes domestic violence and holds batterers accountable.
Biden was a strong supporter of the Family and Medical Leave Act, cracked down on deadbeat dads, and has been a consistent champion for equal pay.
Biden was one of the first to introduce legislation to address global warming and he co-sponsored the most aggressive pieces of climate change legislation in the U.S. Senate.
Biden is a champion on the issue of making college more affordable by using the tax code to reduce costs.
Biden was successful in passing a provision that prevents budget cuts to military facilities while the nation is at war, an effort that shored up one of his key priorities -- top-notch medical treatment for all veterans in a fully-funded VA health care system. His son is served a tour of duty in Iraq as a member of the Delaware National Guard.

As chairman of the Senate Foreign relations committee he has worked on every piece of foreign legislation in the past decade, has visited every major country, met most major leaders.

Ryan's foreign relations experience - well he drove the weinermobile.

So who is better qualified to step in to lead this great country if necessary?

Something the Dog Said wrote: What a lie! Where did Biden say anything about returning black people to chains? What a lie!

You know very well that had a Republican made that same statement. Jesse, the reverend Al, and rest of the usual race baiting, race card playing, goons would be calling for his head. Just look at the attention Doug Lanborn got for his “tar baby quote” Which has nothing to do with race.

The Tar-Baby is a fictional character in the second of the Uncle Remus stories published in 1881; it is a doll made of tar and turpentine used to entrap Br'er Rabbit. The more that Br'er Rabbit fights the Tar-Baby, the more entangled he becomes. In modern usage, "tar baby" refers to any "sticky situation" that is only aggravated by additional contact.

FredHayek wrote: Shackles and chains describing bankers? Seems more like a reference to slavery to me than lessening of corporate regulations. Consider this, despite the new regulations of Sarbanes Oxley & Dodd-Frank, fraud is still going on at high rates on Wall Street. Sounds like the administration just doesn't care about the voters.

If you had actually read or listened to the topic of your OP, you would hear VP Biden discussing the banking industry and how Romney would eliminate the Obama banking regulations to allow Wall Street to chain you (the average american) back. You were in too big of a hurry to place the race card that you failed to honestly put the remark in it's surrounding context.

pineinthegrass wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote:

pineinthegrass wrote:

FredHayek wrote:

archer wrote: Joe was certainly a better choice for Obama than Ryan is for Romney.

lol Conservatives are eagerly waiting for the bloodbath that will be the VP debate.

Biden couldn't even put away political lightweight Palin in their debate.

And was Biden pandering to the African-Americans in the crowd (not that pandering is anything unusual in politics)? I get metaphors, but he said "they gonna put ya'll back in chains". He didn't need the word "back" in there. Without it, I could see a general metaphor. But when he says you'll be back in chains it comes across as being a much more specific reference.

Only a racist would think that. His reference was to Wall Street, that Romney would overturn the banking regulation brought about by President Obama which would enable Wall Street (a metaphor for the financial industry) to once again shackle the average american.

All you got is playing the race card?

I explained my opinion. Again, the word "back" was unnecessary if all Biden ment to do was use a metaphor. But instead you claim anyone who dares disagree with you is a racist. Typical of you.

No you claimed that VP Biden was talking about putting the African - Americans in chains, which clearly in the context of his remarks he was not, nor was he speaking exclusively to African Americans. According to media reports, the majority of the audience were not African Americans. You, Fred, Printsmith, etc. are the ones who are making these remarks racist, when clearly they were not. You should be ashamed if you are not racist. The back was in reference to the days before the Obama banking regulations were enacted, that Romney would take us back to that time when we were at the mercy of the financial institutions that were running rampant.

Grady wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote: What a lie! Where did Biden say anything about returning black people to chains? What a lie!

You know very well that had a Republican made that same statement. Jesse, the reverend Al, and rest of the usual race baiting, race card playing, goons would be calling for his head. Just look at the attention Doug Lanborn got for his “tar baby quote” Which has nothing to do with race.

The Tar-Baby is a fictional character in the second of the Uncle Remus stories published in 1881; it is a doll made of tar and turpentine used to entrap Br'er Rabbit. The more that Br'er Rabbit fights the Tar-Baby, the more entangled he becomes. In modern usage, "tar baby" refers to any "sticky situation" that is only aggravated by additional contact.

Where did VP Biden make the statement of putting black people back in chains?Deflect all you would like, but VP Biden did not make that statement. That was an outright lie by Printsmith and he should be ashamed for making such a racist statement.

Since you cut and pasted your entry about tar baby from wikipedia without attribution, you should have also included the remaining definition posted there:
" The Oxford English Dictionary defines "tar baby" as "a difficult problem which is only aggravated by attempts to solve it",[7] but the subscription-only version adds a second definition: "a derogatory term for a Black (U.S.) or a Maori (N.Z.)".[8][9]"