Tacky and desperate.

CinnamonGirl wrote:

archer wrote: OK...my phone won't pull up facebook for me here on the road in New Mexico. Which came first the web page or Facebook? Never mind, it doesn't matter. It is pretty funny though don't you think, and clever.

No offense but now it is funny and clever? i think you guys were rude to me.

I thought it was funny and clever when I first read it here...so no change there. Not at all trying to be rude. You have spent two days nit picking and complaining about everything Obama had done or is doing and we're rude?

It's not personal cinnamongirl, its politics. I like you, just not your brand of politics. And I suspect the feeling is mutual.

:thumbsup:

You want reasonable debate and this is the issue you bring up?

Try focusing on the ISSUES and not this type of stuff and you might get a higher level of discussion. By posting this and then whining about the discussion, you are showing your real agenda and making your claim of wanting reasonable debate laughable.

archer wrote:

CinnamonGirl wrote:

archer wrote: OK...my phone won't pull up facebook for me here on the road in New Mexico. Which came first the web page or Facebook? Never mind, it doesn't matter. It is pretty funny though don't you think, and clever.

No offense but now it is funny and clever? i think you guys were rude to me.

I thought it was funny and clever when I first read it here...so no change there. Not at all trying to be rude. You have spent two days nit picking and complaining about everything Obama had done or is doing and we're rude?

I wasn't rude to you I was rude (okay I was sarcastic to get my point across, not sure if it worked) to Obama. There is your difference. We are going to disagree we don't have the same views politically but I can respect your right to disagree. I don't think we should try to make each other look stupid to try and get your point across that is what will help us have real discussion not personal attacks. That just ain't much fun.

Soulshiner wrote: You want reasonable debate and this is the issue you bring up?

Try focusing on the ISSUES and not this type of stuff and you might get a higher level of discussion. By posting this and then whining about the discussion, you are showing your real agenda and making your claim of wanting reasonable debate laughable.

I believe that was an issue and it was a debate. He looks tacky and desparate. This topic has quite a few views and posts. That don't hold water either.

Okay, let's see if I can get more clear. DO YOU THINK THAT OBAMA IS CHANGING HIS STRATEGY BY GIVING A SPEECH DURING A HURRICANE AND DURING THE RNC? YES OR NO.

I say yes, what do you say? I don't dislike you all for being a democrat and I do not think I am ever going to change your mind, however I would like to hear what you think not whether I am stupid, I don't get it or whether Obama didn't mean to. Discuss, is he tacky and desperate? If you say no I won't attack you over it. If you say I am stupid for saying it I will think you have no argument. Just keeping it real honey.

And GOP had a good point on this thread. (even though he threw in a barb as well) He posted a good article on how both parties are talking about bucking this trend. And I am going to bitch if he does. Maybe it is a TRAP>

CinnamonGirl wrote: You know if this is how it is going to be before the election I am going to have to go somewhere else to get a decent debate going. Romney is not the fricking president. If you can't come up with something smart then don't come up with anything at all. Raees had a problem with what I was saying but came up with a clear, reasonable reply on what he thought about this.

Just saying well "Ronmey was in Indiana yesterday" and "Obama did say it the website did" is not discussion. We are not in kindergarten. give me a reasonable debate.

I don't need your permission to post.

Your hysteria over where the President was this week is not intended to promote reasonable debate, but merely to echo a talking point. Previously, the opposition did little campaigning during a candidate's convention because most coverage was dominated by the three networks, and there was little coverage other than the tradition. Now, the conventions are largely a joke, little drama, and with a plethora of cable, network and internet coverage 24/7, there is ample air space for all candidates to campaign.

Additionally, the conventions in the past were held in July where 3 days of not campaigning mattered little. But with the conventions moved to late August, early September, no campaign wants to forgo momentum in campaigning at a critical time. Most unaffiliated voters make up their mind after Labor day, so this is a critical campaign time.


Bush campaigned during the Kerry DNC convention, doing a series of televised interviews with the major networks. McCain ran national ads and campaigned in AZ during the Obama convention. There was no hue and cry. So does your outrage over the "tacky and desparate" campaigning only apply to sitting Democrat presidents or are there other reasons involved?

Nah nah nah nah, bock bock bock.

CinnamonGirl wrote: DO YOU THINK THAT OBAMA IS CHANGING HIS STRATEGY BY GIVING A SPEECH DURING A HURRICANE AND DURING THE RNC? YES OR NO.

I don't know what his exact strategy is so I must say no to your first question. As it was pointed out that he has campaigned during the RNC before and others campagn during the DNC, I don't see a problem with it and consider it a non issue. So double no, I don't see it as tacky or desparate.

On the hurricane issue: Do you really expect any politician to suspend campaigning while we all wait to see what happens? It was not even a hurricane when it hit. Would you hold the same standard that he should have stopped campaigning while half the country was experiencing wild fires? Or while we are still invloved in a war?

What exactly was he supposed to be doing while waiting for the hurricane to develope and hit? Sit around the oval office watching the Weather Channel? Go to a sold out Packer pre-season game?

Go Packers!

LA is hated by mother nature,, and the aliens.

So as a compaigning president or president hopeful,, EH to heck with it.