Another Reason we Need a Change in the White House

01 Nov 2012 10:24 #101 by Nobody that matters

Grady wrote: Your tax dollars via "stimulus" is going to support illegals


Which is why we need to abandon income taxes and switch to a national sales tax.

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01 Nov 2012 10:50 #102 by archer
Well that is misleading....how can you lump legal and illegal immigrants together? Are those legal immigrants citizens? They certainly could be. When did we start distinguishing between kinds of citizens? Why didn't they show numbers for just illegals? Too many questions to make any issue over this.

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01 Nov 2012 10:52 #103 by Nobody that matters

archer wrote: Are those legal immigrants citizens?


Probably not, or they'd be called 'citizens'. Legal immigrants are citizens of another country here through legal channels.

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01 Nov 2012 10:55 #104 by FredHayek
I think the immigrants include all types, legal immigrants, new citizens, work visas, and illegals.

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01 Nov 2012 11:01 #105 by Something the Dog Said
The definition of immigrant is generally one who leaves a country to take up permanent residence in another country. An immigrant is an immigrant regardless of whether they gain citizenship in their new country of residence.

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01 Nov 2012 11:07 #106 by Grady

archer wrote: Well that is misleading....how can you lump legal and illegal immigrants together? Are those legal immigrants citizens? They certainly could be. When did we start distinguishing between kinds of citizens? Why didn't they show numbers for just illegals? Too many questions to make any issue over this.

The article quoted clearly includes both legal and illegal immigrants, because of their ability to move where the jobs are. But since the article included illegals my statement is correct that your tax dollars are supporting illegals.

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01 Nov 2012 11:13 #107 by Something the Dog Said

Grady wrote: Two-thirds of jobs go to immigrants during Obama’s four years

Two-thirds of those who have found employment under President Obama are immigrants, both legal and illegal, according to an analysis that suggests immigration has soaked up a large portion of what little job growth there has been over the past three years.



http://media.washtimes.com/media/image/2012/10/31/immigration_s640x907.jpg?9bf064a5487e8f3412a665a7559f754932585ed7

Your tax dollars via "stimulus" is going to support illegals

Where does this "report" state that tax dollars are supporting illegals? It merely states that it appears that more immigrants, either legal or illegal, are becoming employed. It does not state that those jobs are a result of taxpayer dollars, it does not state that taxpayer dollars are supporting illegals. The article does state that it is probably a result of immigrants being more mobile, thus willing to move to locations where jobs are more plentiful, that the increase in jobs are in sectors that natives are less likely to be interested, such as agricultural, and that natives may prefer to use up their unemployment benefits before reentering the workforce.

Please point out the backup for your reckless statements.

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01 Nov 2012 11:29 #108 by Nobody that matters

Something the Dog Said wrote: The definition of ...


Words words words... it just never ends with you, does it? :biggrin:

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01 Nov 2012 15:13 #109 by Grady

Something the Dog Said wrote: Please point out the backup for your reckless statements.


From the first line in the report

Two-thirds of those who have found employment under President Obama are immigrants, both legal and illegal


Illegals are taking some of the jobs, therefore your tax dollars are supporting illegals. Since illegals are likely the most transient of the sub populations in the US they are also the most likely to pack up and move for work. Doubt me, ask any school teacher who teaches in an area that includes the aforementioned sub population.

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01 Nov 2012 16:09 #110 by Something the Dog Said

Grady wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote: Please point out the backup for your reckless statements.


From the first line in the report

Two-thirds of those who have found employment under President Obama are immigrants, both legal and illegal


Illegals are taking some of the jobs, therefore your tax dollars are supporting illegals. Since illegals are likely the most transient of the sub populations in the US they are also the most likely to pack up and move for work. Doubt me, ask any school teacher who teaches in an area that includes the aforementioned sub population.

Again, where does the article state that illegal immigrants are being supported by tax dollars? Are you saying that all jobs are created by the government? That private sector hiring has not increased? I disagree.

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