Benghazi: People Died Obama Lied

17 Nov 2012 07:10 #171 by FredHayek

LadyJazzer wrote: There are so many conservative asses floating around these days...How will we know which one is yours?


Typical, name calling rather than addressing why the General's testimony differ from the administration's spin doctors.

Answer this, do you believe random mobs show up with detailed battle plans and crew served weapons?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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17 Nov 2012 07:47 #172 by LadyJazzer
The facts surrounding the difference in the testimony has already been addressed... It's already been answered.

I did not call him a name...He said he lost his ass, and I asked him which one it was... Please try to pay attention.

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17 Nov 2012 10:17 #173 by Raees

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18 Nov 2012 08:15 #174 by lionshead2010
Well it's a damned good thing the Israelis decided to mix it up with Hamas in Gaza right now otherwise the mainstream media and Huffpost would have to actually talk about what appears to be a massive coverup going on with the debacle in Libya.

Thank GOD for small blessings. rofllol

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18 Nov 2012 10:17 #175 by CC
Replied by CC on topic Benghazi: People Died Obama Lied
In the meantime......the drama continues.

The former four-star general, who resigned from the CIA Nov. 9 due to an affair with his biographer, Paula Broadwell, said the unclassified talking points were later revised to omit any mention of al Qaeda.

The edits would have been made after the statements had left the CIA for review by the Defense and State departments, ultimately landing at the White House.

But instead of relaying what the CIA initially reported, UN Ambassador Susan Rice repeatedly insisted the attack was a spontaneous protest spurred by an American-made video depicting Prophet Mohammed as a pedophile.


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/w ... KpqBU3tMrM

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18 Nov 2012 10:19 #176 by LadyJazzer
She went out and gave the talking points that were agreed to by the entire intelligence community as reflecting their unclassified views at the moment that she used those talking points .

What part of that are you having trouble understanding? Is it the part about "AS REFLECTING THEIR UNCLASSIFIED VIEWS AT THE MOMENT THAT SHE USED THOSE TALKING POINTS"...? I can explain it to you...But I can't understand it for you.




In the meantime, 4,780 US personnel died in Iraq because Bush and Condoleeza Rice LIED.

And I'm STILL waiting for PROOF that the President of the United States "lied"....

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18 Nov 2012 10:45 #177 by FredHayek
If only Obama had done as good of a job defending his Libyan ambassador as he did his UN one Rice.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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18 Nov 2012 10:49 - 18 Nov 2012 11:01 #178 by LadyJazzer
Gee, Fred, you mean with the $300 million in budget cuts the GOP made to the security budget of the foreign service?....

GOP Rep: I ‘Absolutely’ Voted To Cut Funding For Embassy Security

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) said today that he voted to cut funding for U.S. embassy security amid political attacks from Republicans that the Obama administration did not do enough to secure the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya that was attacked last month.

Republicans and their allies have been trying to politicize the attack — which killed four Americans, including the U.S. Ambassador to Libya — suggesting, without evidence, the Obama administration may have ignored intelligence that the attack was imminent, didn’t properly secure the Benghazi compound and is now trying to cover it up.

But hidden beneath the GOP campaign is the fact that House Republicans voted to cut nearly $300 million from the U.S. embassy security budget. When asked if he voted to cut the funds this morning on CNN, Chaffetz said, “Absolutely“:

O’BRIEN: Is it true that you voted to cut the funding for embassy security?

CHAFFETZ: Absolutely. Look, we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have — think about this — 15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, private army there for President Obama in Baghdad.

And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces? When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices how to prioritize this.

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/ ... ?mobile=nc

And before we hear the standard line about, "Oh, that's from 'ThinkProgress'"....

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18 Nov 2012 10:58 #179 by LadyJazzer
And don't you find it suspicious that the President refuses to take a lie-detector test to PROVE that he isn't the Grand Vizier from the Planet Xenu?




In the meantime, 4,780 US personnel died in Iraq because Bush and Condoleeza Rice LIED.

And I'm STILL waiting for PROOF that the President of the United States "lied"....

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18 Nov 2012 11:22 #180 by LadyJazzer
Yes... They DID lie... They BOTH knew that the CIA was directed to return the "intelligence they wanted"... Let me introduce you to the TRUTH.

US intelligence report shows war drive against Iran based on lies
by Bill Van Auken
Global Research, December 5, 2007

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... a&aid=7553


IRAQ - A WAR BASED ON LIES
http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=371

SOURCES:

BBC News, "Iraq verdict fills papers", 8 July 2003.
[ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3053438.stm ]

BBC News, "White House 'warned over Iraq claim'", 9 July 2003.
[ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3056626.stm ]

BBC News, "Bush under fire over Iraq claims", 9 July 2003.
[ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3051963.stm ]

BBC News, "CIA 'cleared' Iraq uranium claim", 11 July 2003.
[ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle ... 058809.stm ]

FURTHER READING:

The Debate - "Iraq War Motives"
[ [url=http://www.thedebate.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;]http://www.thedebate.org[/url] ]

Diplomat's suppressed document lays bare the lies behind Iraq war
By Colin Brown and Andy McSmith
Friday, 15 December 2006

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 28545.html



http://www.countercurrents.org/iraq-vann061003.htm



http://www.bushwatch.org/bushlies.htm


74. 'Statement by David Kay on the Interim Progress Report on the Activities of the Iraq Survey Group (ISG) Before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, The House Committee on Appropriations, Subcommittee on Defense, and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence', October 2, 2003, http://www.cia.gov/cia/public_affairs/s ... 22003.html .

75. "Newsmaker: David Kay," News Hour with Jim Lehrer, PBS TV, October 2, 2003, http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_e ... 10-02.html .

76. Michael R. Gordon, "Weapons Of Mass Confusion," New York Times on the Web, August 1, 2003. See also Associated Press "Air Force Assessment Before War Said Iraqi Drones Were Minor Threat: U.S. arms experts in Iraq came to same conclusion," Baltimore Sun, August 25, 2003; David Rogers, "Air Force Doubts Drone Threat: Report Says Bush Exaggerated Perils of Unmanned Iraqi Aircraft," Wall Street Journal, September 10, 2003; Joseph Cirincione and Alexis Orton, "The Air Force Dissents," Carnegie Analysis, September 11, 2003, http://www.ceip.org/files/nonprolif/tem ... wsID=5346; Bradley Graham, "Air Force Analysts Feel Vindicated On Iraqi Drones," Washington Post, September 26, 2003, p. 23.

77. Walter Pincus, "Intelligence Report For Iraq War Was 'Hastily Done'," Washington Post, October 24, 2003, p. 18.

78. Thomas Patrick Carroll, "The Intelligence on Iraq's WMD," Middle East Intelligence Bulletin, Vol. 5, No. 11, November 2003, http://www.meib.org/articles/0311_iraq1.htm .

79. William M. Arkin, "A Thin Basis For War," Los Angeles Times, July 27, 2003.

80. Jay Taylor, "When Intelligence Reports Become Political Tools . . .," Washington Post, June 29, 2003, p. B2.

84. New York Times, James Risen and Douglas Jehl, "Expert Said to Tell Legislators He Was Pressed to Distort Some Evidence," June 25, 2003.

85. Jason Vest, "The 'Intelligence' Game," The Nation, June 30, 2003, http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030630&s=vest . See also John Prados, "Iraq: A necessary war?" Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, May/June 2003, Vol. 59, No. 3, pp. 26-33, http://www.thebulletin.org/issues/2003/ ... rados.html .

86. Mark Hosenball, Michael Isikoff and Evan Thomas, "Cheney's Long Path to War: The Hard Sell: He sifted intelligence." He brooded about threats. And he wanted Saddam gone. "The inside story of how Vice President Cheney bought into shady assumptions and helped persuade a nation to invade Iraq," Newsweek, Nov. 17. 2003.

117. Nancy Gibbs and Michael Ware, "Chasing A Mirage: The U.S. was sure Saddam had WMD, but Iraqi scientists tell TIME the weapons were destroyed long before the war," Time, October 6, 2003, p. 38.

136. Andrew Gumbel "Case for war confected, say top US officials," Independent, 09 November 2003.





Wanna try again? And with all due respect, your godson doesn't know SQUAT at the State Department/Bush Administration level... You're going to need some PROOF beyond the hearsay from a relative that is not in a position to know.

In the meantime, 4,780 US personnel died in Iraq because Bush and Condoleeza Rice LIED.

And I'm STILL waiting for PROOF that the current President of the United States "lied"....

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