I accepted GWB, both times, and never once wanted to leave the US. I never signed a petition to secede from the US.
You know why? Because I believe in the US and the will of the people and if the majority of people decided that Bush was the better choice, then I accepted that and worked towards electing the candidate that reflected my positions at the NEXT election.
When you plant ice you're going to harvest wind. - Robert Hunter
Soulshiner wrote: I accepted GWB, both times, and never once wanted to leave the US. I never signed a petition to secede from the US.
You know why? Because I believe in the US and the will of the people and if the majority of people decided that Bush was the better choice, then I accepted that and worked towards electing the candidate that reflected my positions at the NEXT election.
I think I just developed a new respect for at least one person at RedState.com...
Is It Time to Roll Up the Welcome Mat Here?
Barack Obama won the election.
He did not win by stealing the election. Voter irregularities always happen. It is one reason we support voter ID rules. But even in the worse scenario of reports out there, there were not enough tales of voter irregularities to matter nationwide. This is another benefit and built in safeguard of the electoral college.
Barack Obama won. He won by turning out the most people in a well run campaign. In other words, he won fair and square.
We here at RedState are American citizens. We have no plans to secede from the union. If you do, good luck with that, but this is not the place for you.
We have a place for you here if you wish to continue the fight against Republicans in Washington like John Boehner and Mitch McConnell who’d be happy to sell us down the river to keep their power, no matter how devoid of principle or sound policy. You have a place here if you’d like to keep fighting the Democrats who are intent on further stifling economic growth, pushing forward with Obamacare, bankrupting the nation, and siding with teachers unions against kids who deserve better.
Too many people have spent the past four years obsessed with birth certificates. Now they are obsessed with voter fraud conspiracies, talk of secession, and supposed election changing news stories if only we had known.
So let’s add dabblers in this latest nuttiness to birthers as a category of people we do not welcome at RedState. Our aim is to beat the Democrats, not beat a retreat to a Confederacy that Generals Grant and Sherman rent asunder well over a hundred years ago.
Obviously, I will still not agree with them on many things, not the least of which is their views on what is and isn't good for the nation...But it's refreshing to see the "loyal opposition" speak of this recent election with respect, acknowledging that OUR PRESIDENT won it fair and square, and it's time to speak out against the extremist nut-jobs on the right who would continue to fight to delegitimize the administration. And to have them speak openly of the uselessness of Boehner and McConnell as more interested in preserving their power than principle. Admittedly there are some on the left who are not much different...But good to hear the evaluation...free of snark.
Man, this "debate" has gotten tiresome. You know, when my family moved to Colorado in 1970 there was a radio talk show host (Joe Finan, I believe) who was stumping on his radio show to have the state secede. Everyone got a good laugh out of it and went on with their lives.
No one is going to secede from the US - these are folks who are upset with politicians in general and the lack of action in DC to get anything done (hey! They have a bill for polar bear carcasses! BFD!!!). I suspect that the signers cross all spectrum of political persuasion. Besides, all 50 states now have a petition online - so what does that mean? All the states will secede and coalesce into - what? - another country??? rofllol
In my opinion these are folks who are using the right "to petition the Govenment for a redress of grievances" over the lack of adults in DC and nothing more. All the talk about folks being "unpatriotic" and "treasonous" to me simply shows the contempt that the tyranically-inclined have for First Amendment political expression.
Of course, I was ready to let 'em go about 10 seconds after the first loonies filed the first petition... I still like the idea of deporting all the signers as traitors....
I signed. I did it as a simple way to blow off a little steam. Anyone that takes any of these petitions seriously, or thinks that anyone in power will take them seriously, is seriously deluded.
"Whatever you are, be a good one." ~ Abraham Lincoln
