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chickaree wrote: I don't see how this has anything to do with the abortion debate any more than a drunken surgeon would with the healthcare debate. We would all be better off if we quit conflating stuff. It ruins any chance for rational discussion.
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chickaree wrote: I don't see how this has anything to do with the abortion debate any more than a drunken surgeon would with the healthcare debate. We would all be better off if we quit conflating stuff. It ruins any chance for rational discussion.
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FredHayek wrote:
chickaree wrote: I don't see how this has anything to do with the abortion debate any more than a drunken surgeon would with the healthcare debate. We would all be better off if we quit conflating stuff. It ruins any chance for rational discussion.
You mean like banning guns and hi-capacity magazines based on the actions of one madman when 99.99% of gun owners never shoot anyone?
I bet there are more nasty, foul, late term abortion clinics than just this one.
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The same people who love government regulations and inspections should also love having these abortion mills put under the microscope too right? I hope they do but I'm not betting on it.homeagain wrote:
FredHayek wrote:
chickaree wrote: I don't see how this has anything to do with the abortion debate any more than a drunken surgeon would with the healthcare debate. We would all be better off if we quit conflating stuff. It ruins any chance for rational discussion.
You mean like banning guns and hi-capacity magazines based on the actions of one madman when 99.99% of gun owners never shoot anyone?
I bet there are more nasty, foul, late term abortion clinics than just this one.
YEP, I bet there are.....just like the BOLDED (based on the actions of ONE madman).......bring them to trial and put them to DEATH. THEN monitor/inspect the clinics more efficiently AND CHANGE THE LAW IN REGARDS TO MENTAL ILLNESS AND MONITOR/ENFORCE
the process of allowing "madmen" to acquire guns......THAT IS THE SOLUTION. The ENTIRE process in BOTH examples is required to
change....JMO
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chickaree wrote: As I said, everyone rushes to use the outliers to support their arguments, but refuse to accept them when they count against their views. rational argument is almost non-existent because no one is willing to admit using these tactics. I'm not trying to deflect anything, I am actually pro-life. I do not, however, pretend that this monster is representative of the majority of abortion providers any more than the Aurora shooter is representative of gun owners. Anyone who pretends they believe this is either a fool or a liar.
“For what it’s worth, I do think that those of us on the left have made a decision not to cover this trial because we worry that it’ll compromise abortion rights. Whether you agree with abortion or not, I do think there’s a direct connection between the media’s failure to cover this and our own political commitments on the left. I think it’s a bad idea, I think it’s dangerous, but I think that’s the way it is.”
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Why would you say that.....EVERY medical facility should be put under a microscope, why would abortion clinics be any different?Rick wrote: The same people who love government regulations and inspections should also love having these abortion mills put under the microscope too right? I hope they do but I'm not betting on it.
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chickaree wrote: I'm am agreeing that the press is as wrong with conflating these errors as you are. You do a poor job of reading and comprehending others post, preferring instead to rush to judgement. Just as you accuse others of doing.
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