Zimmerman Trial? Predictions?

14 Jul 2013 05:46 #81 by homeagain

PrintSmith wrote: Any other decision would have been a travesty of justice, a man who did no wrong punished solely for the purposes of appeasing the mob. Now we will see if those who traffic in keeping us racially divided are satisfied with the outcome of the trial held solely to appease them.


A GENTLE reminder of the TRAGEDY of this trial..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmDQFWNjHpA

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14 Jul 2013 06:06 #82 by FredHayek
While I still think both were two idiots, with more ego than common sense, in self defense circles, if you are down with your head against concrete, you are effectively screwed, unless you can still shoot.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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14 Jul 2013 06:18 #83 by The Dude

PrintSmith wrote:

The Dude wrote:

PrintSmith wrote: Oh please, there was nothing difficult about the decision the jury reached. There was absolutely nothing presented at the trial which even begins to justify the charges that were filed.

At least we can finally dismiss this whole fairy tale about an innocent black teenager being shot down in cold blood for the crime of walking home with Skittles and Arizona Watermelon Fruit Cocktail. We now know, beyond any doubt which can be sustained by reason, that that 17 year old black teenager was killed because he was assaulting a man who deemed it necessary to resort to lethal force to defend his own well being.

Really??? Do you think any of this would have happened had Zimmerman listened to 911 and stayed in his car and not approached Martin?

I do need to add that I did not follow much of this case and feel as much sorrow for George Zimmerman and his family as I do Trayvon Martin and his family. The whole thing really just sucks in every way possible!

Given Martin's history of violence and his drug use? Yes, it was really only a matter of time before his attitude brought sadness to his family. Tell me Dude, what do you think the odds are that Martin was headed home with two of the three ingredients necessary for a batch of Lean to get high(er) on? Why do you think the prosecutor is going to be answering to their attempts to withhold evidence from the defense team? Why do you think the pictures and texts from Martin's phone were not allowed to be mentioned or shown to the jury?

The fairy tale of an innocent black teenager who was doing nothng but minding his own business being murdered in cold blood by a racist was shattered by the verdict. What you have instead was a thug whose bad attitude and propensity for violence ended up costing him his life when he ran across a decent human being who was armed for their own protection from just such a person.

The evidence showed that Martin had a chance to avoid any encounter at all and chose a different path instead. The evidence showed that Martin, not Zimmerman, was the aggressor that evening. The evidence showed that the problem that fateful night was Martin, not Zimmerman. You need to realize you were sold a mountain of lies by those who profit from keeping racial tensions alive and well Dude. At some point I can only hope you get tired of being played for a fool like you were in this instance.


Good to know. Never walk by Printsmiths house with Skittles and Arizona ice tea. He might think you are out to get high!! The fact of the matter is that it never would have happened had he listened to dispatch and let the cops deal with the boy who was walking in his own neighborhood minding his own business. I understand because he is a teenager who smokes pot and apparently mixes skittles and Arizona ice tea to get high that he's not high on your list as a worthy citizen... But that was no reason to approach him in the first place.

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14 Jul 2013 07:20 #84 by PrintSmith

The Dude wrote: Good to know. Never walk by Printsmiths house with Skittles and Arizona ice tea. He might think you are out to get high!! The fact of the matter is that it never would have happened had he listened to dispatch and let the cops deal with the boy who was walking in his own neighborhood minding his own business. I understand because he is a teenager who smokes pot and apparently mixes skittles and Arizona ice tea to get high that he's not high on your list as a worthy citizen... But that was no reason to approach him in the first place.

And this is a prime example of the problem Dude. Even when you know that he was carrying Arizona Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail, and not iced tea, you choose to stick to the false narrative provided by those who profit from keeping us racially divided.

Did you hear the testimony of the dispatcher? Oh that's right, you already said you hadn't followed the trial, where facts and evidence were provided upon which a reasoned decision, as opposed to your emotional one, can be made. That, too, is part of the problem. Emotions are a very poor foundation for laws and decisions, regardless of how popular they may be, but I digress. At the trial it was established that Zimmerman was headed back to his vehicle when he the confrontation occurrred, so in fact, as opposed to your fantasy, he was following the recommendation of the dispatcher. If you listened to the 911 tapes, it is easily discerned that Zimmerman stopped his pursuit of Martin after the dispatcher told him that they didn't need him to continue to follow Martin. In the tapes it was clear that Zimmerman had lost contact with Martin, completely lost sight of him, had no idea where he was. At the trial it was established that the confrontation which led to Martin assaulting Zimmerman began a full 4 minutes after Zimmerman's call to the dispatcher ended. By looking at the maps, it is easily discerned that anyone looking to make it home would have reached the house in those 4 minutes, which is why we now know that Martin wasn't looking to go home and was instead looking to confront the "crazy assed cracker".

You see Dude, those engaged in less than honest conduct are paranoid about their less than honest conduct being discovered. Martin knew what the Skittles and Watermelon Cocktail were for, he knew that the police officers would know what the Skittles and Watermelon Cocktail were for. His autopsy showed that his liver had been damaged by the use he put Skittles and Watermelon Cocktail to.

If you remember back to those 911 tapes, you remember Zimmerman describing Martin as walking like he was on drugs or something. Knowing now that Martin made, consumed and sold Lean, it is quite possible that he was, indeed, under the influence of it at the time. Know what the signs of Lean use are Dude? Know why they call it "Lean"? Look it up. What you will find is that those signs are consistent with Zimmerman's description of Martin that evening that he gave to police.

And let us not forget, although it is convenient for your fairy tale if we do, that the neighborhood had been victimized a few times recently by thieves dressed as Martin was dressed that evening and that is what drew attention of Zimmerman initially. An unrecognized youth, behaving in an odd manner. You will remember, possibly, that Martin was visiting his father while he served a suspension from school, he didn't live in that neighborhood, so it wasn't "his" neighborhood that he was walking in that evening at all, was it. His father's neighborhood, his father's girlfriend's neighborhood, Zimmerman's neighborhood - certainly - but it is a bit of a stretch to say that visiting a neighborhood makes it "your" neighborhood, isn't it.

You have your facts all wrong Dude. You have your facts all wrong because you listened to the fairy tale concocted by those who profit from keeping us racially divided and swallowed it down whole because it conforms to your own prejudices. As long as you continue to harbor those prejudices, Dr King's vision of treating all according to the conduct of their character instead of the color of their skin will remain unrealized. If you were to judge on the content of the character of the two principles involved here, rather than the color of their skin, you wouldn't have reason to still be so angry and outraged.

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14 Jul 2013 07:22 #85 by The Boss
I still predict that many people will pay attention to this case at the expense of things that have a bearing on their lives like it matters really at all.

Move along, nothing to see here, nothing that really matters. Just a bunch of who-has if Florida flexing their muscles over and over.

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14 Jul 2013 07:34 #86 by homeagain
:smackshead: :smackshead: Do you (collectively) REALLY THINK that this is a "win" for Z?

ASK Casey Anthony about HER life now......NO ONE HAS WON in this tragedy.....Z.'s conduct
will be SCRUTINIZED from here to eternity on going. He will fear for his life EVERY minute of EVERYday.....even tho there is a short attention span of the media/public...his name will be
synonymous with the adjective "vigilante"......THIS is a sad and gut-wrenching situation. JMO

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14 Jul 2013 07:39 #87 by PrintSmith
:VeryScared: Oh, but it does matter OTN - because it shows that even when the left's narratives are exposed for the lies that they are, they continue to cling to them and continue to try and forward those narratives as being truths instead of lies.

We have another such example with Smokin' Joe and his comments on minimum wages, another one with climate change and CO2 not being the driver of it as all of the models designed to make it the primary driver have attempted to do. Both of those have bearing on our future, as do the false narratives forwarded with regard to the PPACA.

This is a teaching moment which can be utilized to great effect not only with regards to the conduct of the left in general, but also as an example of what happens when you attempt to corrupt the independent nature of the judiciary and start prosecuting people for perceived violations which are wholly political in nature instead of prosecuting for criminal matters only.

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14 Jul 2013 07:44 #88 by FOS
Replied by FOS on topic Zimmerman Trial? Predictions?
An affirmation that our court system is still working...(amazing these days) and that facts still drive a verdict.

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14 Jul 2013 07:46 #89 by LadyJazzer
He's not "innocent"...He's "not guilty"... Two different things...

After 46 calls to 911 in 5 years, describing a "suspicious black man", this vigilante is not done with the legal system. NOW the DoJ will file a criminal civial rights action, and the parents will likely file a civil suit. And in both cases the standard is a "preponderance of evidence"...not "reasonable doubt."

It's not over....

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14 Jul 2013 07:46 #90 by PrintSmith

homeagain wrote: :smackshead: :smackshead: Do you (collectively) REALLY THINK that this is a "win" for Z?

ASK Casey Anthony about HER life now......NO ONE HAS WON in this tragedy.....Z.'s conduct
will be SCRUTINIZED from here to eternity on going. He will fear for his life EVERY minute of EVERYday.....even tho there is a short attention span of the media/public...his name will be
synonymous with the adjective "vigilante"......THIS is a sad and gut-wrenching situation. JMO

By whom home? Those who ignore the rendering of justice at a fair and impartial trial? Those are the only ones Zimmerman need fear, aren't they? Aren't they the only ones who will associate his name with vigilante justice? The rest of us will see a man who was prosecuted not for criminal reasons, but for political ones. The rest of us will look at this trial and quickly realize that Zimmerman did nothing wrong that night. Zimmerman has nothing to fear from us and there is no reason for us to associate his name with vigilante justice. What we should properly fear at this point is a justice system which can take your liberty from you simply to appease the mob and which is employed solely for that purpose.

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