2020 Presidential Candidates

13 Jan 2020 20:34 #331 by ramage
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Mainstream, Lamestream, is there a difference?
I am enthralled by your criticism of the media, as being unfair in their coverage? An epiphany, perhaps?

"Bernie Sanders is officially an Independent, not a Democrat," I love you parsing of affliliations; so if Sanders gets the DEMOCRAT nomination for president will the ballot be changed to reflect that he is a socialist? Why is he on the debate stage for the democrat nomination for the presidency? Why does he consistently vote with the democrats? Why is he campaigning in the democrat primaries?
Gotta love this "He's old, he's already had a heart attack on the campaign trail" Joe Biden is the same age, has suffered 2 Cerebral aneurysms,

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14 Jan 2020 05:55 #332 by Pony Soldier
Clinton moves to New York for the express purpose of running for the Senate seat. I repeat.. she’s not a New Yorker.

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14 Jan 2020 07:19 #333 by homeagain

towermonkey wrote: Clinton moves to New York for the express purpose of running for the Senate seat. I repeat.. she’s not a New Yorker.


In the true sense, THAT is correct.....the required residency was the motive.

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14 Jan 2020 07:56 #334 by FredHayek

towermonkey wrote:

FredHayek wrote:

homeagain wrote: Judge Judy just backed BLOOMBERG......you Don't dare defy the "judge"......:woohoo:

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I really thought Bloomberg was running only to buy ads to go after Donald Trump but after watching so many of his ads during football this weekend, he isn't attacking the current President so much as pushing for his own nomination. I do like that he has never taken special interest money. In 2016, we had two New Yorkers running against each other, could it happen again?


?? 2?? Trump and who in 2016? Clinton is from Chicago, then Arkansas. She's no New Yorker.

Trump and Bloomberg. Mayor of New York for three terms. Ran as a Republican. Could he be the moderate the nation gets behind? Although NYC had term limits on being a mayor, only two terms. He got special approval to run again.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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14 Jan 2020 08:01 #335 by Pony Soldier
Oh, gotcha. I thought you meant 2016.

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14 Jan 2020 08:20 #336 by ramage
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coloradopolitics.com 1/14/2020

"Bill Clinton's top campaign strategist endorses Michael Bennet's presidential bid"

Who, you ask? The inestimable James Carville. Did this endorsement come unsolicited and did Bennet ask for the endorsement?

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14 Jan 2020 10:52 #337 by ramage
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Elizabeth Warren states that she will cancel student loan debt ($1.5 trillion) immediately upon election, bypassing congress, using executive order.
Why does she stop there? Cancel the national debt also, relieve the angst of all those who have sleepless nights worrying over the national debt.

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14 Jan 2020 19:05 #338 by Rick
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ramage wrote: Elizabeth Warren states that she will cancel student loan debt ($1.5 trillion) immediately upon election, bypassing congress, using executive order.
Why does she stop there? Cancel the national debt also, relieve the angst of all those who have sleepless nights worrying over the national debt.

Warren had the easiest path to the nomination imo but she has done everything she could to be as genuine as a $20 Rolex.

Bloomberg is trying to buy the election with he economy, his own money while Warren is trying to buy it with OUR money. I think Bernie's ideas are extremely dangerous and would absolutely tank the economy in record time, but at least he's genuine and has been the same way for decades, where as Warren just stole his crazy ideology and thought she could take his base because she's a woman. Bye Bye Liz.

“We can’t afford four more years of this”

Tim Walz

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15 Jan 2020 08:22 #339 by FredHayek

ramage wrote: Elizabeth Warren states that she will cancel student loan debt ($1.5 trillion) immediately upon election, bypassing congress, using executive order.
Why does she stop there? Cancel the national debt also, relieve the angst of all those who have sleepless nights worrying over the national debt.


I read a brilliant piece that to actually help out blue collar Americans, it would be better to pay off car loans, 1.2 trillion, as opposed to student loans, 1.5 trillion. The working poor need transportation and paying off their loans would help them buy healthcare or better living spaces. Paying off debt for college graduates who make much more than most Americans actually sounds like a Republican plan to bail out the rich.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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15 Jan 2020 11:06 #340 by ScienceChic
Clinton may have moved to NY in order to run and win as Senator (according to one political commentator I follow, she's never won a tough election and wasn't that strong of a presidential candidate, as evidenced by her loss when it should've been an easy win), but she didn't leave NY after she left politics and she did accomplish a lot for NY while in the Senate. The question is, do New Yorkers consider her a New Yorker, and does she consider herself a New Yorker now? Not that it matters, because she's not running so who cares.

I respectfully disagree that Warren had the easiest path to the nomination. She's always been a divisive figure, and her foray into identity politics was a disaster that is still haunting her. She's smart, but she has complicated plans that make the average American tune out, and her plans are too progressive/not realistic. Plus, she and Bernie split supporters. I don't see her making it past South Carolina's primary.

I still like Klobuchar the best, but facing reality, she's not going to get the nomination.
Election Update: Two New Polls Show Biden’s Upside Scenario
By Nate Silver, FiveThirtyEight | January 14, 2020

Dear Democrats, Here’s How to Guarantee Trump’s Reelection
You’ve got a historically unpopular opponent in the White House, but there are nearly a dozen ways you could still blow this.
By CHARLES SYKES, The Bulwark | June 25, 2019

Trump’s numbers are unmovable, but yours are not. He doesn’t need to win this thing; he needs for you to lose it. There are millions of swing voters who regard Trump as an abomination but might vote for him again if they think you are scarier, more extreme, dangerous, or just annoyingly out of touch.

Here are 11 pointers on how to guarantee that the most unpopular president in modern polling history wins reelection next year.

1. Hold firmly to the idea that Twitter is the beating heart of the real Democratic Party.

Woke Twitter is convinced that anger over Trump means that voters want to move hard left. You should ignore polls showing that most Democrats, not to mention swing voters, are much more likely to be centrist.

2. Embrace the weird.
3. Keep promising lots of free stuff and don’t sweat paying for it.
4. Go ahead and abolish private health insurance.
5. Spend time talking about reparations.
6. Trump thinks that immigration and the crisis at the border are winning issues for him. They aren’t. But you can turn that around.
7. Lots more focus on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
8. Socialism.
9. Turn the abortion issue from a winner into a loser.
10. You can also turn a winner into a loser on the issue of guns.
11. As you try to get Americans more alarmed about Trump’s attacks on democratic norms, make sure you talk as much as possible about your support for court-packing.


"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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