Great point. There are only two ways out. Herd immunity or vaccines. Vaccines are a long way away. Herd immunity will happen sooner. Senior citizens? Continue to lock them up. Sad really, senior living already seemed bad, but now you can't even have your friends and family visit.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
ramage wrote: The following is a concise description of how one prescribes HCQ therapy.
From: jamanetwork.com 4/29/30,
April 30, 2020"First Do No Harm" is impossible when doing nothing holds the possibility doing more harm.Anthony Cusano, MD | Waterbury Health "Medicine is a science of uncertainty and an art of probability".
"First, do no harm" was a wise missive when much of what physicians did had significant uncertainty and low probability of success. Its thoughtless application to a disease with a high probability of severe adverse outcomes does not follow any useful tradition of medical tradition.
Hydroxychloroquine is the fifth most widely prescribed drug in the world with exceedingly rare adverse effects documented. The prolonged QT interval it can cause has rarely been associated with sudden death, though it certainly warrants close attention when using the medication.
A better way to approach this clinical dilemma is to review the benefits, risks, alternatives, and unknowns, and invite a shared decision by the patient or their family. That allows them to chose the potential harm of unclear action or the potential harm of no action at all.
''CERTAINLY WARRANTS CLOSE ATTENTION WHEN USING THE MED.''.........WE HAVE TWO CHOICES THAT WILL
EXPEDITE THE LEARNING CURVE OF RX AND VIRUS......HERD IMMUNITY(WHICH WILL TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS
TO ACHIEVE 60 PERCENT OR SO......OR HUMAN CHALLENGE...WHICH KEYS INTO INFORMED CONSENT ON
A LARGE SCALE.. to treat on an individual scale,is tedious and time consuming and the one thing that is paramount
isTIME......jmo.......the king is NOT going to provide an adequate platform for resolution to this fubar....it is up to heroic
humans and scientists to accomplish that......the concern I have is FDA fast tracking said drugs,approving them and
THEN months later recalling because of serious side effects/problems.....THAT is currently the M.O. of meds on
the market AND medical devices.....HUMAN CHALLENGE IS A SOLUTION... JMO
14,000 OR MORE have accepted the "challenge".......so we will see IF the FDA finds the fortitude to allow it, since
they have ALLOWED other ??? meds/protocol.
This is rich. an article from one of Homeagain's relied upon medical sources; The Lancet.
thelancet.com 5/17/20
Hydroxychloroquine prophlylaxis for Covid-19 contacts in India
The Indian Council of Medical Research, under the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare, has recommended chemoprophylaxis with hydroxychloroquine (400 mg twice on day 1, then 400 mg once a week thereafter) for asymptomatic health-care workers treating patients with suspected or confirmed COVID-19, and for asymptomatic household contacts of confirmed cases.2 The document states “its use in prophylaxis is derived from available evidence of benefit as treatment and supported by preclinical data”.
You can bet the ranch that many of those doctors and nurses are also taking supplementary Zinc.
Last edit: 17 May 2020 13:46 by ramage. Reason: additional comment
For those of you who thought that President Trump, if he believes in HCQ some much, should take it himself. Surprise, you should be ecstatic. President Trump announced today that he has been taking HCQ for several weeks as a preventative medicine.
HCQ = Hydroxychloroquine.
U beat me to the post....Here's a kudos to the king....human guinea pig,I say IF U want it U should be able to
get the rx....so-o-o, NOW we wait.....he's obese,poss heart problems(went to ER unexpected)diet is ???.
terrible...SEPT. is a month for health issues for the king....ticking time bomb? watch what happens
Only hive minded brain dead would be concerned about a drug that has been in use since after WW2 used to treat malaria. The drug is also used to treat many other issues. When the lies from WHO, CDC etc. finally come out those with open minds will see the truth.
ramage wrote: Is there a way that comments can be enshrined?
"..Here's a kudos to the king." Homeagain
BELIEVE it or not, I did mean it....he is partaking in risky behavior....his LDL cholesterol reading is in the mid 140....normal is 100 or less....he is NOT wearing a mask.... his "chart" trends towards health problems.
IF he wants to be a "test specimen"...go for it.