ABORTION ON DEMAND - A NEW TWIST

"Surrogate Recalls Pain She And Baby Felt After The Child’s Parents Demanded Abortion"


A surrogate mother agonized over the demands of the couple who paid the medical costs of the pregnancy that she undergo an abortion. Briefly the couple wanted twins and when only one of the embryos attached to the uterus of the surrogate they try to compel the surrogate to abort the fetus. She carried the child to term and then the baby was taken by the disappointed "parents".

thefederalist.com/2024/01/26/surrogate-r...s-demanded-abortion/

Guess abortion on demand did not work.

I certainly won't hold my breath waiting to hear from the pro-abortionists on this forum.. evdiently they are waiting for an article in the MSM they can cite in lieu of their inability to express themselves.

I think they will remain silent rather than try to defend their position on abortion. Similar to the silence encountered when asked when does live begin?

Many abortions are actually forced on the mother by her BF or husband, but the feminists never protect those women.

ramage wrote: I certainly won't hold my breath waiting to hear from the pro-abortionists on this forum.. evdiently they are waiting for an article in the MSM they can cite in lieu of their inability to express themselves.

I think they will remain silent rather than try to defend their position on abortion. Similar to the silence encountered when asked when does live begin?

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AND your silence if masturbation is murder. Your fixation on "when" is indicative of a mindset that is OBSESSED with a need to maintain the MALE superiority and control over things that r NONE OF YOUR CONCERN.......when Viagra is a given for the male,BUT the morning after pill is forbidden....WE HAVE A PATRIARCHAL SOCIETY, of which,u seem to be the prominent example.. LEAVE MY BODY ALONE, I and ONLY I, AM THE SOLE DECIDER OF THIS VESSEL.......U (COLLECTIVELY) will not interfere with the decisions concerning my body. (a PCP just attempted THAT most recently,GOD COMPLEX,what HE did not understand was MY M.O......I pulled his patient notes from medical records,before I found another doctor. He was utilizing A.I..and there were errors and omissions that I DEMANDED TO BE RECTIFIED
BEFORE I WOULD OK A RELEASE to the new doctor.. The C.M.O.,the Office Manager and Medical records ALL found themselves with a unwanted problem......TRANSPARENCY., A. I. is not disclosed to the patient.. HOUSTON,WE HAVE A PROBLEM.....the records WERE revised and upon review I approved the release. DO NOT SCREW WITH ME.....he (PCP) was gaslighting me and he thought I was
oblivious and stupid, I guess. DO NOT KNOW how that clinic is proceeding with the issue, I just know the PCP had to acquiesce and I bet THAT ticked him off (not to mention,his superior WAS dragged into this.and I am REAL sure that was a bummer.

HA, what do you think about the story ramage posted? Do you think the people who call themselves parents were justified in wanting the surrogate to abort the baby because there were two babies?

I realize the left has a different value for that human life, but isn't this a little too much?

ramage wrote: I certainly won't hold my breath waiting to hear from the pro-abortionists on this forum.. evdiently they are waiting for an article in the MSM they can cite in lieu of their inability to express themselves.

I think they will remain silent rather than try to defend their position on abortion. Similar to the silence encountered when asked when does live begin?

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TO RICK... 1 bolded, silence is not my nature.....i went off because of #2 bolded...it continues to sideline his threads.

NOW, my pov of the "self absorbed,soulless sad and stupid couple......I SUGGEST U ADOPT A CHILD THAT IS ALREADY ON THIS EARTH, I WOULD CALL THIS SCENARIO THE EPITOME OF AN EGOTISTICAL SELFISH EXAMPLE OF WHAT IS WRONG WITH MANKIND.

First, masturbation is not murder. What could possibly make you espouse such a position?
the rest of your post is your personal problem which I sincerely hope that gets settled to your satisfaction so that you can have peace.

when does life begin? I thought we answered your question long ago. Neither you, nor I, know with any definitive clarity when life begins because we will disagree on the definition of life. You obviously think it is at conception.

You were a doctor, right? Medical doctor? Then answer this - when does life end? When do you, as a medical doctor, write the time on the death certificate? Is it when the heart stops beating? Is it when the chest stops rising with breath? Is it when there is no brain activity?

Here's an interesting twist:

www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/0...s-and-religion-clash

Just as there are legal implications that flow from determining a person's death, from organ donation to inheritance, the implied rights held by a legally recognized zygote are potentially vast. Will death certificates be issued for every lost pregnancy? Will miscarriages be investigated? When will Social Security numbers be issued? How will census counts be tallied and congressional districts drawn?

Moreover, asking doctors "What is life?" or "What is death?" may miss the point, said Magnus: "Medicine can answer the question 'When does a biological organism cease to exist?' But they can't answer the question 'When does a person begin or end?' because those are metaphysical issues."

"Neither you, nor I, know with any definitive clarity when life begins because we will disagree on the definition of life. You obviously think it is at conception."
And when do you obviously think life begins?