Like your lives are gonna change

I did deal with it LJ -

I paid for my own edumacation - without help from daddy or uncle sam.

Your advice to me is the same advice I offer to little Johnny who wants to live in a frat house and party with all his buds while he earns a degree in "political science" - deal with it, and by the way Johnny - your gettin ripped off!

Deal with it - and leave me out of it.

Local_Historian wrote: Student loan is welfare? Funny, no one has ever had to pay back welfare, yet you sure as hell have to pay back student loans, with a large amount if interest as well.

If federally backed loans and grants disappear, we create a whole new class structure in our society - again. Let's go back to the 1800s, cause life was SOOO good then - not. Yes, those towns will be in deep crap. Yes, a lot of colleges will shut down - the number on the verge across the country right now is astounding. (BTW, you forgot Gunnison and Alamosa and Durango and Fort Collins and Pueblo and Greeley and Glenwood Springs and part of Denver and Grand Junction - all vry reliant on the colleges there, all getting funds for the town, jobs for their people, etc - because the college is there.)

The title of the thread - Like your lives are going to change. Well, I sure as hell hope they do - which is why I voted as I did.

I think we heard the similar argument with the housing industry and look what that got us - a bubble. We need poor people in homes. We need everyone in homes.

There are colleges and universities that need to shut down. There are programs that need to be discontinued. Do you really believe the university system is efficient?

Learning via the internet is going to crush the mediocre and non-research schools. We should go ahead and put them down and get them out of the misery.

The internet has disrupting many industries...just look at what the internet has done to the music industry. You don't pay $ 14.99 for an entire CD anymore...you pay $ .99 for the song you want. The internet disrupted the distribution system that the music industry tried and tried to hold on to.

That is exactly what's going to happen to the U.S. education system - if the federal government doesn't interfere in the marketplace. Why can Western Governors University deliver a top rated accredited online Graduate degree program for half the cost of a traditional college university? By the way, before you degrade WGU...you might want to do some research.

The federal back student loan system is just like Freddie and Fannie...the only difference is that the government doesn't have any tangible property to foreclose on. Then again, the federal govt has your hide until you die.

Republican politicians have not figured out, yet, that they also are out of step with the national mood.
Remember the rout in 2008?
The American public is sick of BOTH parties. Sick of politicians.
We need statesmen. Those who are above politics and are driven by an ideal. Those who do not fear defeat. Those who do not play the odds and do not only put forward a candidate who can win. Those who do not support the "party platform".

It is funny that Republicans think that they have won in the arena of ideas. Bologna! The Dems were voted out. Just as the Repubs were voted out in 2008. (the only two whores in town.)

They were the only two in town Major. There is a new kid on the block IMO, the Tea Parties. Right now the Republican Party is basking in the defeat of the Democrats and the Republicans don't seem to have a clue here in Colorado. The rest of the nation accomplished wondrous things, thanks to the Tea Party, but here in Co. the sticking to the party line vote cost Colorado the state. Dick Wadhams has to go. Michael Steele also, has to go. Steele thinks he was responsible for all this change and he doesn't seem to have a clue.

every time i hear boehner speak he makes me ill. all this talk of compromise. apparently he hasn't heard the tea party's message. it is not about being a dem or repub but following the constitution and having less government. if they don't get it this time, looks like there will be some more boots next time. that's if the whole thing doesn't crash and burn before we get to 2012. we can not continue the unbridled spending. we are broke.

residenttroll wrote:

Local_Historian wrote: Student loan is welfare? Funny, no one has ever had to pay back welfare, yet you sure as hell have to pay back student loans, with a large amount if interest as well.

If federally backed loans and grants disappear, we create a whole new class structure in our society - again. Let's go back to the 1800s, cause life was SOOO good then - not. Yes, those towns will be in deep crap. Yes, a lot of colleges will shut down - the number on the verge across the country right now is astounding. (BTW, you forgot Gunnison and Alamosa and Durango and Fort Collins and Pueblo and Greeley and Glenwood Springs and part of Denver and Grand Junction - all vry reliant on the colleges there, all getting funds for the town, jobs for their people, etc - because the college is there.)

The title of the thread - Like your lives are going to change. Well, I sure as hell hope they do - which is why I voted as I did.

I think we heard the similar argument with the housing industry and look what that got us - a bubble. We need poor people in homes. We need everyone in homes.

There are colleges and universities that need to shut down. There are programs that need to be discontinued. Do you really believe the university system is efficient?

Learning via the internet is going to crush the mediocre and non-research schools. We should go ahead and put them down and get them out of the misery.

The internet has disrupting many industries...just look at what the internet has done to the music industry. You don't pay $ 14.99 for an entire CD anymore...you pay $ .99 for the song you want. The internet disrupted the distribution system that the music industry tried and tried to hold on to.

That is exactly what's going to happen to the U.S. education system - if the federal government doesn't interfere in the marketplace. Why can Western Governors University deliver a top rated accredited online Graduate degree program for half the cost of a traditional college university? By the way, before you degrade WGU...you might want to do some research.

The federal back student loan system is just like Freddie and Fannie...the only difference is that the government doesn't have any tangible property to foreclose on. Then again, the federal govt has your hide until you die.

So your argument is that only the rich deserve an education? Sorry CG, but I'm about to force this discussion to the ring. This guy is an arrogant asshole.....!!!!!

Will look here....he's the Mr. "I bought this ambassadorship" Murphy and President Obama shaking hands tonight in Germany. I wonder if Obama thanked Phil for the money?


By the way, MSNBC is reporting that Obama is going to India to help the US economy. Really? Are Americans that dumb?

Stay on target. take your meds - it helps.

towermonkey wrote: Stay on target. take your meds - it helps.

I've got my medicine right now. I am watching MSNBC...and laughing. They don't have a clue. They are like a bunch of possums in the chicken house with flashlights in their eyes.