Tebow stinking up the practice field

Fox was talking about how well Tebow operates the read-option offense that was implemented after the Lions' loss, but as he continued to get up caught up watching the film, he said about his quarterback: "If we were trying to run a regular offense, he'd be screwed."

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Rockdoc Franz wrote: Tebow continues to be less than impressive for much of the game according to many. Yet, he continues to improve. Perhaps its foolish, but can you imagine, a QB mature Tebow in a year from now? I think he will be a monster in terms of winning.

Less than impressive? He is only running the plays that he is told to play by Fox. Whenever they rely upon him to save the game, and is calling his on plays, he is outstanding.

Arlen wrote:

Rockdoc Franz wrote: Tebow continues to be less than impressive for much of the game according to many. Yet, he continues to improve. Perhaps its foolish, but can you imagine, a QB mature Tebow in a year from now? I think he will be a monster in terms of winning.

Less than impressive? He is only running the plays that he is told to play by Fox. Whenever they rely upon him to save the game, and is calling his on plays, he is outstanding.

Interesting comment. I only get to read about these games (but sooon I'll get to see them). I tend to believe you. What makes me think you are right is that Tebow tries so hard to live within the constraints and expectations of his coach and that has a way of blunting your natural ability.

CinnamonGirl wrote: Fox was talking about how well Tebow operates the read-option offense that was implemented after the Lions' loss, but as he continued to get up caught up watching the film, he said about his quarterback: "If we were trying to run a regular offense, he'd be screwed."

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Yes, I red that story also. I look at it as a freudian slip. Likely that is how he feels. In fact, I have a suspicion, given the way Elway has steered clear of really commenting on Tebow after these games, that Elway is only paying lip service in support of Tebow. He already is looking to go to the top of the draft board as far as he can go to get a QB. Meanwhile, miracle worker Tebow, continues to move forward and lets his total potential shine when it counts most. In between those moments, there is a young man who is self constrained as he tries to do al that is asked of him and not make a mistake. I've noted he has gone turnover free for a number of games now. There is no proof for any of my speculation, rather it is based on my assessment of behavior, less than enthusiastic comments, freudian slips, etc. The only one who has been honestly enthusiastic is Bowen. The others are playing to the media only.

Rockdoc Franz wrote: [ In fact, I have a suspicion, given the way Elway has steered clear of really commenting on Tebow after these games, that Elway is only paying lip service in support of Tebow.

Concur, we watched the game. Right after he made the winning TD the camera showed Elway. I paused it. My wife and I agree that he looked like he had bitten into a lemon.

Listen, Orton couldn't get in the endzone if pressured (or if not pressured for that matter) and Tebow is way better in the red zone. Coming from a QB that had the most come from behind wins he is similar in that way to Tebow. I think Elway had alot of come from behind wins because he was much better when his back was against the wall too. No one knows what Elway is thinking. I think the guy was a great QB but Elway has a terrible reputation in this town and I am not convinced (yet) that he knows what he is doing but let's see what happens. I think you may just seeing Elway's huge ego. Tebow has got to find a way to get better before it really matters but for a young QB he is getting it done. We need to see how this plays out and it is just too early to tell.

As far as Fox's comments, keep this in mind. Coach's are not creative by nature. They love to do the 'in' thing. West Coast offense was the big thing then something new had to come about for them to change. Now it is the spread offense and many teams are changing to a 3-4 Defense after years of all being 4-3. The wild cat was the thing there for about a year. They have to see it before they believe it. But make no mistake, coach's and commentators (for that matter) always need some "proof" before making major changes so the fact that they are changing their offense to fit Tebow says alot about what they think about him. I think it was Deion Sanders on Thursday that said he has never seen a team change this much for a player. But that is not a bad thing. I always thought the NFL needed a bit more creativity.

Good points, SG. Never considered it from the standpoint of being reluctant to change and a lack of creativity. Interesting.

It would seem to me that someone like Elway would be quick to recognize talent. Perhaps he is and feels threatened by it? again speculation because we really do not know what he is thinking. He is keeping his thoughts mostly to himself and out of the public spectrum.

Deion's comments sure are thought provoking as well for their implications.

Can't wait to get home to the real world again.

Tebow has forced Fox and Elway to handle the change a totally way. Instead of the quarterback running the offense that the coach designed and the players have worked on since training camp, now they are designing the offense around the QB...and that has to be hard for both the coaches and the team. I think Fox deserves credit for doing that even if he came to that change kicking and screaming. After the game a NFL analyst commented that he has never seen a team or coach do that after a change at QB mid season.

But that is the key to a good coach. He needs to recognize the ability and weaknesses, then set about strengthening and protecting both. It will be interesting to see where we go from here. I did read that he sees improvement in Tebow's passing game. If the last game is an indication, we will see more passing as the season continues.

archer wrote: Tebow has forced Fox and Elway to handle the change a totally way. Instead of the quarterback running the offense that the coach designed and the players have worked on since training camp, now they are designing the offense around the QB...and that has to be hard for both the coaches and the team. I think Fox deserves credit for doing that even if he came to that change kicking and screaming. After the game a NFL analyst commented that he has never seen a team or coach do that after a change at QB mid season.

Wait a minute, in my view, with this change they are actually able to use much more of the playbook than they did with Orton. And the play calling has been horrendous, especially on 3rd down.