Why depicting Obama as a monkey is always racist

He's an opportunist. He may have been idealistic at the beginning (I think they all were) but now Washington has it's claws in him. Quite frankly I don't think we've had a president that represented the citizens for quite some time. Party has become irrelevant, it's all about which sector you are beholden to.

Nobody that matters wrote:

CinnamonGirl wrote: Nobody, I just don't understand why, with the history of this country you can't just use something else. There are some that are going to use this racially. Unless you are really part of it, why even risk the confusion. Use a dunce cap like they used on Bush or better yet, get something new.

Clinton/womanizer
Bush/Idiot
Obama/...... what is his thing

Unless you refuse to go there you are going to look bad whether you mean it or not. That is all I am saying.

I find it sad that we're not going to make any more headway against racism as long as many people's first response is to scream racism.

BTW, Obama/empty figurehead, or drunken sailor - take your pick.

Hey Nobody, as a retired drunken sailor, I am deeply offended.

On another note, I think there is a concerted effort to insinuate into the public's consciousness that conservatives and republicans are racist. A billion buck buys a lot even after inflation.

The only bias I see in MOST of the conservatives I know is based on merit.

I assume that you live in Colorado. You don't see as much racism here as you see in other places. It is still alive and well in the south.

On another note, I think there is a concerted effort to insinuate into the public's consciousness that conservatives and republicans are racist.

I agree with that statement and it is not fair. And those emails don't help the cause. I do not think all conservatives/republicans are racist. I think there are a few. But that broad brush is just as bad.

CinnamonGirl wrote:

On another note, I think there is a concerted effort to insinuate into the public's consciousness that conservatives and republicans are racist.

I agree with that statement and it is not fair. And those emails don't help the cause. I do not think all conservatives/republicans are racist. I think there are a few. But that broad brush is just as bad.

I agree that not all conservatives are racists, but I don't agree there are only a "few". Those emails (yes, I get them, too) just wouldn't be forwarded around so freely as they are if they were as rare as some of you would like to believe.

I think there is still a lot of racism out there, it's just changed its "look". Instead of out and out name-calling and the like, it's more subtle and "coded". And yes, I think it's pretty clear that the portrayals of Obama are examples of coded racism. If someone comes right out and uses obviously racist language to describe the President, it can't be denied. But if you portray him as a monkey, the message gets across to those who see him as belonging to a sub-human race in a way that can be "plausibly denied". Sure lots of evidence of that denial in this thread.

As to those in this thread who are denying categorically that such a portrayal could be seen as racist, I'd simply suggest you might be more believable if you DIDN'T protest quite so much.

AV, disagree. I think it is more isolated than what you believe. I have only gotten them from a small few but they don't seem embarrassed by it. And racist can be a pretty subjective term. I just cannot paint that broad but when it does happen I don't want to ignore it. I have a couple out of many that think those are okay. And I didn't even get them until Obama started having issues.

I also want to say that I respect those who actually came on here to discuss it even if they don't agree with me. I really do believe some people don't think it is a big deal but are not actively racist. There are way too many nuances for all that. Racism is a subjective term that is hard to pin down. To me it is people that truly believe some races are inferior. I am not willing to go so far as to say anything about races are racist. The ape thing was meant that way, was my argument.

Dead Congressman John Murtha admitted before Obama won that while his Pennsylvania district supported Democrats they wouldn't support Obama and they didn't.

But is it also racist if you think that blacks are unable to get ahead without special advantages? Like a spot reserved for them on the Supreme Court? Or spots reserved for them at college or the fire department?

CinnamonGirl wrote: One last question. Would it be funny to use the holocaust in depicting a president were he of Jewish heritage? Dress him up with a star of david on a train. Not a judgement, a real question. Explain to me what you think the difference is.

I have to leave for a bit so just mull that one over.

Every time a global warmist calls another person a denier, it comparing them to those who deny the holocaust. And depicting Obama as an ape is the only problem here?

Would it be funny to use the holocaust in depicting a president were he of Jewish heritage? Dress him up with a star of david on a train.

CG:

Why do you use that example? I have repeatedly told you that Judaism is a Religion, not a race.

Religion and racial comments are the same thing to me. I am not trying to offend I am trying to get you to see what it feels like.

People have died for their race, religion, gender (not as much) and sexual preference.