GOP poll: Tea party movement could cost Republicans in 2012

23 Jun 2011 16:20 #21 by LadyJazzer
I don't need more "suggestions"... It sounds like this is from your own meeting minutes:

What does the 285 Corridor Tea Party expect to accomplish?
• Expand influence with Republican Party

What does it stand for?
• Serve as conscience of Republican Party

Based on that, you aren't selling anything I have any interest in buying.

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23 Jun 2011 16:24 #22 by HEARTLESS
However, they weren't transcribed from a recording, so were the words "for the Republican Party" or "of"?
Earlier I pointed out the vast options for the Democrats as candidates, STFU and vote the Party line.

The silent majority will be silent no more.

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23 Jun 2011 16:41 #23 by Nmysys
For what few of you Liberals who really want to know, rather than just the usual baiting and bullsh*t complaints like LJs, here is an interesting blog about part of what we were discussing:

Tea Party vs. the GOP

Posted by Allen Bray on June 23, 2011 at 4:20pm
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At the root of discomfort between the GOP and the Tea Party is a lack of understanding on how candidates are chosen. Couple that with a lack of knowledge on what a political party is actually supposed to do, and there’s a fair amount of animosity between the two.

Ask your typical Tea Party member what the problem is with the Republicans and you’ll generally get an answer like, “The candidates they’ve given us suck,” or, “Too many RINOs run as Republicans,” or, “They don’t adhere to their Constitutional roots.” Well, those are all reason why there is dissatisfaction with the Republican Party, but each demonstrates a lack of understanding of the process of candidate selection.

http://www.teapartynation.com/profiles/blog/show?id=3355873%3ABlogPost%3A1017996&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_post

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23 Jun 2011 16:46 #24 by archer

Nmysys wrote:

I see the Tea Party as those conservatives who don't want to be associated with the failed GOP platforms of the past, but are unwilling to give up the security of being part of the Republican party. I would have more respect for them as a real political movement if they cut their ties with the Republican party and ran their own slate of candidates. Trying to reform the existing Republican party may prove to be their downfall. There are plenty of Republicans who are not buying the message.


Might I ask what lofty perch do you see this from?

It doesn't cease to amaze me how much you Liberals don't know about everything. Still paying attention to the HuffPo and talkingpoints.com?


I'm not about to ask you to approve of what I see, but from your response you disagree.....you could have just said that and explained why I am not seeing it they way you do. And that would be a discussion.....ranting about my lofty perch and accusing liberals of not knowing anything is a "shut up" post, something you seem to be very good at. It also seems to me....yep, from my lofty perch, that you will not engage in a discussion with anyone who doesn't agree with you.

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23 Jun 2011 16:50 - 23 Jun 2011 17:07 #25 by Wayne Harrison

Nmysys wrote: Instead of jumping to the bait Wayne, as many times before, I extend an invitation to you to attend our next meeting and find out what you want to know.


Are you now setting the rules for 285Bound.com?

Going to try to turn it into another Pinecam?


I was asking because I wasn't clear and because I found on and offline that asking for the other person's opinion helps the exchange of ideas. Funny you consider being asked to respond to a post where you criticized the poster "baiting" or something that is exclusive to Pinecam. In some circles, criticizing the poster instead of discussing the topic is called a strawman augment. NEWSFLASH: Asking for the other person's opinion is pretty common in most of the conversations I'm involved in. I guess it's not that common in yours since you didn't seem to understand the concept.

Maybe you think "Do you agree with what she said, as a member of the Tea Party? Are you happy the Tea Party remains part of the Republican Party?" are "gotcha" questions.

Thanks for posting the Tea Party vs the GOP link, though. If I could read the article without joining the group and having to wait for approval of my application, I'm sure it would help me understand more about the Tea Party. Now, I'm wondering why people are required to join in order to read what they stand for.

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23 Jun 2011 16:52 #26 by Soulshiner
Your tea party link requires one to sign up before reading. No thanks. Besides it's a blog on a tea party site, so one can figure out pretty easy which way that's gonna lean.

When you plant ice you're going to harvest wind. - Robert Hunter

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23 Jun 2011 16:59 #27 by Blazer Bob

LadyJazzer wrote: I don't need more "suggestions"... It sounds like this is from your own meeting minutes:

What does the 285 Corridor Tea Party expect to accomplish?
• Expand influence with Republican Party

What does it stand for?
• Serve as conscience of Republican Party

Based on that, you aren't selling anything I have any interest in buying.


Really? You would not want the r's to grow a conscience? You must prefer that it remain a party of ignorant, stupid, evil white men who are racists and prone to violence.

Interesting.

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23 Jun 2011 17:02 #28 by LadyJazzer
Is this, or is this NOT from the meeting minutes:

What does the 285 Corridor Tea Party expect to accomplish?
• Expand influence with Republican Party

What does it stand for?
• Serve as conscience of Republican Party

It's a yes or no question.

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23 Jun 2011 17:05 #29 by LadyJazzer

neptunechimney wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: I don't need more "suggestions"... It sounds like this is from your own meeting minutes:

What does the 285 Corridor Tea Party expect to accomplish?
• Expand influence with Republican Party

What does it stand for?
• Serve as conscience of Republican Party

Based on that, you aren't selling anything I have any interest in buying.


Really? You would not want the r's to grow a conscience? You must prefer that it remain a party of ignorant, stupid, evil white men who are racists and prone to violence.

Interesting.


Based on what I've seen here on 285Bound, I have no interest in ANY group where the so-called "conscience" is determined by a bunch of ultra-right-wingers such as I find here. Your so-called "conscience" has very little in it that I would be interested in allowing to infect others. It's more like a cancer that one hopes has been found in time to eradicate.

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23 Jun 2011 17:14 #30 by Nmysys
CAncer??? Shall we discuss cancers in society LJ?

Wayn-o, we don't have applications for membership. Everyone is welcome even SC who has taken it upon herself to interpret what she wants, how she wants, and to post it on OUR forum. Since we don't restrict attendance, aren't angry old white racists, or any of the other labels that the cranky old broads would like to paint us with, the door is always open.

Personally I don't remember the word Conscience ever coming up, but heck I'm old and forgetful aren't I?

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