Zimmerman to be charged with murder -

11 Apr 2012 14:38 #11 by Reverend Revelant

Wily Fox aka Angela wrote: and I don't think the trial will have anything to do with Neighborhood Watch, but I want folks to understand what a NW really is and the preparation, etc that goes into it.

To me, it should be very clear - Zimmerman claims that Martin was on top of him when he shot him. Forensics should be able to prove/disprove this straight away. Of course, if Martin was on top of him, who is to say that Martin was not exercising HIS right to stand his ground, after having someone stalking him with a gun? It is all a mess and this law needs to be shot down (pun intended)

"Let me tell you, the things that's about to happen, to these honkeys, these crackers, these pigs, these pink people, these ---- people. It has been long overdue. My prize right now this evening ... is gonna be the bounty, the arrest, dead or alive, for George Zimmerman. You feel me?"

(Tue. 4-11-2011) - Community activist and chief of staff for the New Black Panther Party, Michelle Williams

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/250102 ... apologizes


Nice.

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11 Apr 2012 14:44 #12 by Wily Fox aka Angela
The new black panther party are nutz and do not represent what the general community feels or wants

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11 Apr 2012 14:47 #13 by LadyJazzer

Wily Fox aka Angela wrote: The new black panther party are nutz and do not represent what the general community feels or wants


So far, no one has been able to identify more than between 3 and 6 people who supposedly belong to it.... rofllol :lol: You'd almost have to think that if they didn't exist, the Republicans would invent them so they would have something to rail against. Probably another James O'Keefe publicity stunt.

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11 Apr 2012 15:21 #14 by RCCL

Wily Fox aka Angela wrote: we shall see... in my view, if you are hunting another person, then kill them, it is premeditated. he was told to back off by dispatch but did not comply.


Ignoring the suggestions of a dispatcher is not an illegal action, also the assumption that he was "hunting" another person is simply that, an assumption. There is a huge difference between tracking and hunting, who is to say he wasn't simply keeping an eye on someone he thought was suspcious?

Wily Fox aka Angela wrote: in neighborhoods where there is a REAL neighborhood watch program, it is done with groups of folks working WITH the police and NEVER carrying a gun and NEVER approaching the person they are suspicious of. They work in teams, not a lone wolf hunting with a weapon, and act as the eyes for police to come and investigate. The Neighborhood Watch organizations put the folks through training and they work with the community. This guy was/is a stalker.


Again this is conjecture. One is not made neighborhood watch by saying "I don't carry a gun", nor are they suddenly not neighborhood watch when they start carrying a gun.

Wily Fox aka Angela wrote: I tell you what, if I was walking down a street and some guy is stalking me with a gun, I would be scared sh**less.


I agree with you entirely on this point. I'm not afraid of guns, but people are crazy, some people are outright dangerous. Some are racist, some make rash decisions, some shoot seemingly innocent people on the back lawn of their apartment complex.

All that said, though, it's a lot of conjecture. I'm not saying that this was not a cold-blooded murder driven by hate and racism, but I'm saying we have very few ways to prove that it was. This is a huge uphill battle for the prosecution.

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11 Apr 2012 15:29 #15 by Reverend Revelant

Wily Fox aka Angela wrote: The new black panther party are nutz and do not represent what the general community feels or wants


I don't care what the f'k the general community wants... this group is dangerous and I don't blame Zimmerman, guilty or otherwise, for keeping low. This is the kind of rhetoric that inflames people to do really stupid things. You seem to take that lightly?

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11 Apr 2012 15:35 #16 by Wily Fox aka Angela
oh I agree with you on that 1000% - threats or actions of violence are intolerable in my world

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11 Apr 2012 15:44 #17 by Reverend Revelant

LadyJazzer wrote:

Wily Fox aka Angela wrote: The new black panther party are nutz and do not represent what the general community feels or wants


So far, no one has been able to identify more than between 3 and 6 people who supposedly belong to it.... rofllol :lol: You'd almost have to think that if they didn't exist, the Republicans would invent them so they would have something to rail against. Probably another James O'Keefe publicity stunt.


I can identify more than 6 people in this Wiki article... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Black_ ... rship_size IDIOT.

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11 Apr 2012 15:47 #18 by Reverend Revelant

LadyJazzer wrote:

Wily Fox aka Angela wrote: The new black panther party are nutz and do not represent what the general community feels or wants


So far, no one has been able to identify more than between 3 and 6 people who supposedly belong to it.... rofllol :lol: You'd almost have to think that if they didn't exist, the Republicans would invent them so they would have something to rail against. Probably another James O'Keefe publicity stunt.


And the SOuthern Law Poverty Center (that hotbed of far-right nut cases) certainly doesn't think it's just a marginal group.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/i ... ther-party

I can find 50 of the scum in just a fast look over the article "About 50 Panthers, a dozen of whom carried rifles and shotguns, faced off against about 20 Klan members."

Those 6 members of yours must really keep busy. Read the article before you spout off again.

(Do you ever read the crap you post, or are you like a sausage machine, just spitting out what ever crap goes in the other end?)

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11 Apr 2012 16:04 #20 by Wily Fox aka Angela
all the talk about extraneous groups is distraction. let's stay focused on this issue

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