I didn't ask for a list. I asked if anyone has ever seen it.
LadyJazzer wrote:
neptunechimney wrote: Just curious, is there anyone who you disagree with politically that is not ether a moron, ignorant or evil?
You said yes but I have never seen it. Anyone?
I can think of several:
Lisa Murkowski
Former Governor Bill Owens
Cheri Gerou
Congressman Mike Coffman CO-6 (Thank heavens I'm no longer in his district, and I don't agree with him on ANYTHING, but I don't think I ever called him a moron.)
John Huntsman...
I could go on...But you're really not interested in an actual list....
neptunechimney wrote: I didn't ask for a list. I asked if anyone has ever seen it.
LadyJazzer wrote:
neptunechimney wrote: Just curious, is there anyone who you disagree with politically that is not ether a moron, ignorant or evil?
You said yes but I have never seen it. Anyone?
I can think of several:
Lisa Murkowski
Former Governor Bill Owens
Cheri Gerou
Congressman Mike Coffman CO-6 (Thank heavens I'm no longer in his district, and I don't agree with him on ANYTHING, but I don't think I ever called him a moron.)
John Huntsman...
I could go on...But you're really not interested in an actual list....
pineinthegrass wrote: I was expecting manslaughter charges, so 2nd degree murder surprises me. But none of us know all the evidence.
We'll be getting a pretty good look at it in the not too distant future. Some of it will have to be presented if the prosecutor is hoping to deny Zimmerman bail. Judge is going to have to have something of substance to justify both the charge and a reason to deny bail.
Next up will be the immunity from prosecution motion that is sure to be filed where a judge will only have to be shown by a preponderance of the evidence that the defendant felt that they were in danger of being killed or suffering great bodily harm. Don't know about Florida, but Colorado law says that great bodily harm includes the fracturing of any bone. If Zimmerman can produce a medical report that says his nose was fractured, that might be enough, in and of itself, to meet a legal standard of preponderance of evidence.
Picked up this piece from a criminal defense lawyer down in Florida while perusing the web and found it to be both interesting and informative:
Self-defense is a type of affirmative defense that operates to avoid (or cancel) the legal effect of a violent act (such as a homicide), which would ordinarily subject the accused to criminal liability. In a self-defense claim, the defendant admits the truth of the essential act (i.e. that he or she committed a homicide or other violence against a person), but justifies the act by claiming that it was necessary to save him- or herself from death or great bodily harm. In effect, the defendant says: “Yes, I killed. But I did not murder (commit an unlawful killing) because, under the facts and circumstances, my acts were justifiable.” Under common law and in most criminal cases today, the question of justifiable self-defense is a factual question for the jury to resolve at trial. The jury is the “fact-finder.” They decide whether the act was sufficiently justified so as to insulate the accused from criminal liability and punishment.
Here again, Florida’s Stand Your Ground Law makes another significant change from the common law. Under Section 776.032, Florida Statutes, a person who uses force as permitted in Section 776.012 or Section 776.013 “is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action” for the use of such force (with certain limited exceptions pertaining to law enforcement officers). Note the word “immune.” This means that, if the accused can factually establish pre-trial that his or her use of deadly force occurred under the circumstances in Section 776.012 or Section 776.013, the State of Florida is legally and procedurally barred from further prosecution in the matter. In the event that a civil action is brought against the person who used qualifying deadly force, a court must award reasonable attorney’s fees, court costs, compensation for loss of income, and all expenses incurred in the defense of the case.
A road sign on a Michigan freeway was hacked early Monday morning and its message changed to "Trayvon A N****r."
According to Rob Morosi, a spokesman for the state's department of transportation, someone had broken the lock on the sign's controls and changed the message warning of construction to the message with the slur.
