All you gun nuts are stained by this

on that note wrote:

Big Doug wrote:

on that note wrote: I have relearned a lesson with this event.

In mid sept of 2001 I was building one of my houses in the middle of the woods. No radio, no TV, didn't go out much. I went out that afternoon to get my oil changed and the guys a Jiffy Lube told me we were bombed, but they did not have clear info, they were talking about suiting up and going to Bosnia (which might have gone better than the way we did react).

Of course folks talked about it, but I had no TV, no internet, minimal radio use and I mostly looked at trees and cut them up day after day. 9-11 did not effect me the way other events like it in the past, even to this day, I feel less involved and better personally for it.

So for this event, I am a little more plugged in. I have seen no TV, a couple Huffpost/Drudge headlines and some of the threads here.

I think the best and most effective solution for this stuff is to really start to ignore it, to unplug a little. When you know about something that there is no reasonable reaction to, we still want to react, and for something this Tragic, we want to over react like we did and are still doing with 9-11. Once we unplug, watch less, play less TV joystick games, show our kids how to have fun playing with blocks or throw sticks at each other, they will have less of these ideas planted in their heads with the societal ringer we put them through.

Since the killer is dead, I say we just put the victim to rest and not ruin our country anymore than we already have with overreaction that has no results except to likely bring the next similar event closer.

And most of all, just ignore big doug looser cat rabbit. I mean look who he is driving around with, another nut that is ready to kill. This also means reading less around here, because although we all love it, I bet we are all worse people for interacting on the level we do. 285bound is a vice, and addiction, it feels so good while you are doing it, but hurts you and those around you in the long run....like most media.

Just speak for yourself OTN...Youre a wierdo and nobody wants to be like you- by putting blinders on...

Youre solution: Try to remain ignorant like me!

lol

No tv, no radio, just the drudge report and heresay from the Kum n Go clerk..Great advice there On that Note... rofllol

Ummm, I think I was speaking for myself, did my post come up with someone else's name? I was actually suggesting dropping the huff/drudge 285bound portion of my news gathering and focus on my neighborhood that I can see and walk over not having that be the only source. You're ignoring all kinds of issues. This is no big deal. I would prefer to be ignorant, just not quite like you. My goal is to leave my mark, be productive and perhaps happy if it fits in. Knowing about some nutbag that killed a bunch of folks really does not fit in with my goals, it's just damn interesting.

Thanks for continuing to be so abrasive, otherwise I would have been thrown for a loop. Who's your mentor? People don't just act like you without example.

No misunderstanding here-You said the best solution for us is to just ignore it.. because it works for you. Then I said nobody wants to be like you.

.and I don't follow anybodies example.

CinnamonGirl wrote: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_school_massacre

[bluebox=:s7x2xrnk]The Dunblane school massacre occurred at Dunblane Primary School in the Scottish town of Dunblane on 13 March 1996. The gunman, 43-year-old Thomas Hamilton (b. 10 May 1952), entered the school armed with four handguns, shooting and killing sixteen children and one adult before committing suicide. Along with the 1987 Hungerford massacre and the 2010 Cumbria shootings, it remains one of the worst criminal acts involving firearms in the history of the United Kingdom.

Public debate subsequent to these events centred on gun-control laws, including media-driven public petitions calling for a ban on private ownership of handguns and an official enquiry, the Cullen Report. In response to this debate, the Firearms (Amendment) Act 1997 and the Firearms (Amendment) (No. 2) Act 1997 were enacted, which effectively made private ownership of handguns illegal in the United Kingdom.[/bluebox:s7x2xrnk]

Now go from this time and see what the differences in UK vs USA crime. Knife crimes are higher there. Search per capita.

Would you rather take your chances with a knife or an assault rifle CG? If the dude in connecticut had attacked the school with a knife, I doubt the casualties would have been as high, nor really would he have been able to blast his way into the school. So many excuses being given for the assault rifles we have allowed to be distributed through the country. What is the purpose of an assault rifle? The name alone gives it away...."assault". Ok, assault on what?

In law, assault is a crime that involves causing a victim to apprehend violence. wiki
a threat or attempt to inflict offensive physical contact or bodily harm on a person..Webster

please don't tell me they are designed for assault on a paper target.

I have no issues with hand guns or hunting rifles, but I do think assault rifles and high capacity clips should be banned in this country. For those who want to kill....assault....people, lets make it as difficult as possible to cause such mass carnage as these weapons are designed to do.

cydl wrote: I think the most constructive conversation in light of the past several years is a discussion about mental health treatment in the US.

Colorado is woefully behind in mental heath treatment. The whole mental health system is a mess. Training focuses on the wrong thing.

Colorado also has a shortage of mental health facilities. At one time they also had a shortage of psychiatrists.

One hospital chain is going against the trend. Denver's HealthOne hospital chain is opening a new psychiatric ward with 40 beds. It'll be one of the first Colorado has seen in years.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/05 ... ency-rooms

cydl wrote: I think the most constructive conversation in light of the past several years is a discussion about mental health treatment in the US.

Democrats have been trying to get people like the shooter free mental health care for decades...This is the price we pay for voting for Republicans.

Due to state budget cuts in recent years, mental health services have lost millions of dollars, making it difficult for patients to obtain much-needed care. Public and private psychiatric hospitals or specialized units have closed leaving Colorado at a loss, ranking the state 50th in the nation in terms of psychiatric beds per capita. One out of every four Americans experiences a diagnosable mental illness or substance abuse every year. Mental illnesses are more common than cancer, diabetes or heart disease and can affect persons of any age, race, religion or income.

http://www.healthonecares.com/media_cen ... thcare.htm

CinnamonGirl wrote:

cydl wrote: I think the most constructive conversation in light of the past several years is a discussion about mental health treatment in the US.

Colorado is woefully behind in mental heath treatment. The whole mental health system is a mess. Training focuses on the wrong thing.

Colorado also has a shortage of mental health facilities. At one time they also had a shortage of psychiatrists.

One hospital chain is going against the trend. Denver's HealthOne hospital chain is opening a new psychiatric ward with 40 beds. It'll be one of the first Colorado has seen in years.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/05 ... ency-rooms

Like this guy, the Aurora shooter, or the recent child abductor could afford a psychiatrist?

Big Doug wrote:

cydl wrote: I think the most constructive conversation in light of the past several years is a discussion about mental health treatment in the US.

Democrats have been trying to get people like the shooter free mental health care for decades...This is the price we pay for voting for Republicans.

Free is not what we need. Quality is the problem. I mean big time.

CinnamonGirl wrote:

cydl wrote: I think the most constructive conversation in light of the past several years is a discussion about mental health treatment in the US.

Colorado is woefully behind in mental heath treatment. The whole mental health system is a mess. Training focuses on the wrong thing.

Colorado also has a shortage of mental health facilities. At one time they also had a shortage of psychiatrists.

One hospital chain is going against the trend. Denver's HealthOne hospital chain is opening a new psychiatric ward with 40 beds. It'll be one of the first Colorado has seen in years.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/05 ... ency-rooms

And it sure was terrible about the Titanic....

None of this has ANYTHING to do with solving the problem of too many assault guns, and hi-cap magazines in the country. Is mental-health treatment part of this problem? You betcha... So, what do people do who need mental-health treatment but don't have insurance?...Oh, wait... All of the righties think that providing AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE is "socialism"... I forgot... My bad...

I am telling you making it free is not the problem. The quality is horrific.

CinnamonGirl wrote:

Big Doug wrote:

cydl wrote: I think the most constructive conversation in light of the past several years is a discussion about mental health treatment in the US.

Democrats have been trying to get people like the shooter free mental health care for decades...This is the price we pay for voting for Republicans.

Free is not what we need. Quality is the problem. I mean big time.

Free is what this guy needed...Free mental health care for that guy is what those kids needed. Its called society CG- were all apart of it