homeagain wrote: Altho I believe he will NOT be convicte...the entire sordid saga will FOREVER be recorded in history....Your
grand children's children AND their children will wonder WTH happened in the year 2020-2021.THEIR
lives will be altered and they will wonder, in bewilderment, WHAT WAS THE POINT.....TWO IMPEACHMENTS in 4 years and for what? A slap on the hand....
Maybe. I could also see this linked up with the Summer riots. In a future history book, "the Covid-19 pandemic caused disruption all over the world, even including inner city riots and fires started by left wing groups and an attack on the Capitol building by right wing groups."
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
koobookie wrote: Let's be clear - Trump incited this insurrection, he is responsible for the attack - this attempted coup - on our democracy. Trump needs to be held accountable, or else the next authoritarian that the Republicans thrust upon the country will think they can do whatever they want without any penalty.
*** *** **, ** ********, ****** ***? President Biden has already drawn up 40 plus executive orders. That sounds pretty authoritarian to me, especially when his Democratic Party controls the House and Senate. Can't he just sign off on bills passed by his party? A true Democrat would not need executive orders when his party controls the legislature.
The next 1.9 trillion dollars in spending was passed by the Democrats with no Republican votes. Just like ACA. Bipartisanship is clearly only a talking point with Joe. He has no intention of being a moderate who can reach across the aisle. Remember, there are enough soft Republicans like Mitt Romney to create legislation for both blue and red states.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
Last edit: 10 Feb 2021 21:15 by MyMountainTown. Reason: starred out personal attack
Kooboookie said:
On top of that, Donald is the only president in history to be impeached twice.
Similar to Harry Reid doing away with the 60 vote requirement for judges other than Supreme Court,
once the Republicans gained the majority, so much for "other than..."
Now the democrats had reduced the significance of impeachment , be prepared to see Commie Harris be impeached if the republicans gain the majority in the House in 2022.
Hopefully most of America isn't watching this partisanship debate. Even President Biden says he has better stuff to do than waste his time with this silliness. Like taking a nap.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
Let us get a few things straight. Number one, this was not a coup d'etat - the military would have had to have had a role, and they did not. In fact, most top military brass probably voted for Biden. Can you blame them? Number two, the judicial system, from bottom to top, soundly and regularly rejected Trump's baseless claims of fraud. Many of the judges making these decisions were, in fact, appointed by Trump, but they let the truth and the law dictate their decisions, not loyalty to a sore loser. Lastly, to say that Trump was not responsible for what happened in the storming of the Capital is ludicrous. We have all seen the evidence in his words and actions, starting months before the election even occurred, when he boasted that he would only accept a victory, and going right up to just before the mob did its thing. He did, in fact, incite a riot/insurrection that led to the death of five people and the defacing of our country's most cherished landmark. Guilty as charged!
Again - no list of cases. Where does this count come from? It comes from Twitter...
Trump and allies filed scores of lawsuits, tried to convince state legislatures to take action, organized protests and held hearings.. None of it worked.
Ahhh, finally an article where they at least list the cases. Let's look at them:
Bognet v. Boockvar - Trump is not involved in this case. It is listed as a loss for Trump, but is still waiting to be heard by the SCOTUS and had nothing to do with Trump.
Barnette v. Lawrence - Trump not involved in this case. This was internal ballot handling procedures where laws were broken but they were overlooked by the court here.
Trump v. Philadelphia County Board of Elections - This case was from October and was about poll watchers for early voting. They were complaining that there were fewer Republicans allowed to watch than Democrats. The judge disagreed.
Pirkle v. Wolf - Trump not involved in this one.. again. This one was voluntarily dismissed as it sought to invalidate millions of votes from several counties.
Look, I'm not going to keep going on here about this. This list is obviously trumped up to try and make it look like Trump lost every case he brought. That was not the case as shown by the list I posted earlier. He in fact won 14 of 23 that were not dismissed on "standing".
Election 2020: A look at Trump campaign election lawsuits and where they stand