Impeachment proceedings against Trump

09 Feb 2021 13:25 #1131 by homeagain
See BENEGZHI 2021.....as top post....PLEASE EXPLAIN for me.

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09 Feb 2021 13:41 #1132 by FredHayek

homeagain wrote: Altho I believe he will NOT be convicte...the entire sordid saga will FOREVER be recorded in history....Your
grand children's children AND their children will wonder WTH happened in the year 2020-2021.THEIR
lives will be altered and they will wonder, in bewilderment, WHAT WAS THE POINT.....TWO IMPEACHMENTS in 4 years and for what? A slap on the hand....


Maybe. I could also see this linked up with the Summer riots. In a future history book, "the Covid-19 pandemic caused disruption all over the world, even including inner city riots and fires started by left wing groups and an attack on the Capitol building by right wing groups."

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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09 Feb 2021 13:47 - 10 Feb 2021 21:15 #1133 by FredHayek

koobookie wrote: Let's be clear - Trump incited this insurrection, he is responsible for the attack - this attempted coup - on our democracy. Trump needs to be held accountable, or else the next authoritarian that the Republicans thrust upon the country will think they can do whatever they want without any penalty.


*** *** **, ** ********, ****** ***? President Biden has already drawn up 40 plus executive orders. That sounds pretty authoritarian to me, especially when his Democratic Party controls the House and Senate. Can't he just sign off on bills passed by his party? A true Democrat would not need executive orders when his party controls the legislature.
The next 1.9 trillion dollars in spending was passed by the Democrats with no Republican votes. Just like ACA. Bipartisanship is clearly only a talking point with Joe. He has no intention of being a moderate who can reach across the aisle. Remember, there are enough soft Republicans like Mitt Romney to create legislation for both blue and red states.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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09 Feb 2021 14:33 #1134 by ramage
Kooboookie said:
On top of that, Donald is the only president in history to be impeached twice.

Similar to Harry Reid doing away with the 60 vote requirement for judges other than Supreme Court,
once the Republicans gained the majority, so much for "other than..."

Now the democrats had reduced the significance of impeachment , be prepared to see Commie Harris be impeached if the republicans gain the majority in the House in 2022.

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09 Feb 2021 15:07 #1135 by FredHayek
Hopefully most of America isn't watching this partisanship debate. Even President Biden says he has better stuff to do than waste his time with this silliness. Like taking a nap.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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09 Feb 2021 15:45 #1136 by Pony Soldier
If they don't watch, they deserve the filtered BS that they swallow from the MBM (Mockingbird Media).

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09 Feb 2021 15:50 #1137 by chrisd3711
Let us get a few things straight. Number one, this was not a coup d'etat - the military would have had to have had a role, and they did not. In fact, most top military brass probably voted for Biden. Can you blame them? Number two, the judicial system, from bottom to top, soundly and regularly rejected Trump's baseless claims of fraud. Many of the judges making these decisions were, in fact, appointed by Trump, but they let the truth and the law dictate their decisions, not loyalty to a sore loser. Lastly, to say that Trump was not responsible for what happened in the storming of the Capital is ludicrous. We have all seen the evidence in his words and actions, starting months before the election even occurred, when he boasted that he would only accept a victory, and going right up to just before the mob did its thing. He did, in fact, incite a riot/insurrection that led to the death of five people and the defacing of our country's most cherished landmark. Guilty as charged!
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09 Feb 2021 16:12 #1138 by ramage
"Guilty as charged."

Thank you Madame DeFarge. What are you going to do when he is found not guilty?

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09 Feb 2021 16:14 #1139 by ramage
It took a moment but I now realize that the House will impeach him again, #3. Why not?

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09 Feb 2021 16:17 #1140 by Pony Soldier

koobookie wrote:

Trump And His Allies Have Lost Nearly 60 Election Fights In Court (And Counting)

www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/...es-electoral-college


Really?? They used Twitter as their source?? Give me a break!

'Every single case has been ruled on': Trump legal team vows to pursue appeals, file new challenges

www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/13...-challenges-59-out-/

Again - no list of cases. Where does this count come from? It comes from Twitter...

Trump and allies filed scores of lawsuits, tried to convince state legislatures to take action, organized protests and held hearings.. None of it worked.

www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/politics/...-numbers/4130307001/


and yet again. Mark Elias on Twitter is the source. This is the "trusted journalism" that you always parade??? WTF??

Trump's election fight includes over 50 lawsuits. It's not going well.
"Calling an election unfair does not make it so," one ruling said.

www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/t...wsuits-it-s-n1248289

Ahhh, finally an article where they at least list the cases. Let's look at them:

Bognet v. Boockvar - Trump is not involved in this case. It is listed as a loss for Trump, but is still waiting to be heard by the SCOTUS and had nothing to do with Trump.

Barnette v. Lawrence - Trump not involved in this case. This was internal ballot handling procedures where laws were broken but they were overlooked by the court here.

Trump v. Philadelphia County Board of Elections - This case was from October and was about poll watchers for early voting. They were complaining that there were fewer Republicans allowed to watch than Democrats. The judge disagreed.

Pirkle v. Wolf - Trump not involved in this one.. again. This one was voluntarily dismissed as it sought to invalidate millions of votes from several counties.


Look, I'm not going to keep going on here about this. This list is obviously trumped up to try and make it look like Trump lost every case he brought. That was not the case as shown by the list I posted earlier. He in fact won 14 of 23 that were not dismissed on "standing".


Election 2020: A look at Trump campaign election lawsuits and where they stand

abcnews.go.com/Politics/election-2020-tr...nd/story?id=74041748

Trump thought courts were key to winning. Judges disagreed.

apnews.com/article/donald-trump-courts-e...d2b14bc99c403abd0457

Donald Trump has lost dozens of election lawsuits. Here’s why

www.politifact.com/article/2020/dec/10/d...ection-lawsuits-her/

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