SENATE PASSES AID BILL FOR UKRAINE, ISRAEL AND TIAWAN

15 Feb 2024 08:29 #11 by koobookie

FredHayek wrote: America is 35 trillion in the hole. Every year it takes one trillion dollars to service that debt total. Currently we are adding another trillion dollars every six months.

And K wants to give tens of billions to the US military industrial complex. We then ship our old military equipment to Ukraine. And corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs get rich selling it to others, possibly terrorists?


Prove your assertion that "Ukrainian oligarchs" are selling the weapons we send. Prove it.

Why do you want Putin to win, Fred? When did you become an admirer of dictators?

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15 Feb 2024 08:44 #12 by FredHayek
Why didn't President Obama protect Crimea and Ukraine's eastern provinces when he was in office? Was he a Putin fan? Remember when he promised Russia off-mike deals in his second term?

K, there have been plenty of articles about how billions of dollars in aid from the Pentagon has simply disappeared. Also articles about Yelensky's buddies buying up new homes, yachts, and Swiss Bank accounts.
You also have to love seeing US politicians taking trips to Ukraine during a war. Are they picking up their shoeboxes full of cash? Even Dr. Biden visited.

Do you think President Joe would send his wife into a war zone if it was really that dangerous?

Russia winning the war? Please. Both nations are bled out. Russia is losing ground. Putin pulled together a special allocation of 45 billion dollars to fight the war next year, truly scraping the barrel. Not even equal to what the US is giving Ukraine. And that doesn't include what Europe still is delivering to Kiev.

Russia has been reduced to taking old T-55 tanks off display platforms to fight Ukraine. Yes, 65 year old tanks. Armor that was obsolete in 1970 is being used to plug holes.

But you will excuse Obama for his inaction, but attack the Republicans for not wanting to spend money we don't have.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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15 Feb 2024 08:50 #13 by koobookie
If there are plenty of articles, then provide your proof that Ukrainian oligarchs are selling U.S. weapons..

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15 Feb 2024 10:09 #14 by FredHayek
Remember the Romney/Obama debates? Mitt tried to warn the country about Putin. Barack blew it off. The press just rolled their eyes.
Obama promised Russia a "free hand" in his 2nd term.

What did Obama get from Putin in order to turn a blind eye to the annexation of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine?

Hopefully someone writes a book about why President Obama let hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians be handed over to Russia. Would be fascinating.

The press? They just shrugged their shoulders and moved on.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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15 Feb 2024 10:12 #15 by FredHayek
When the USSR split up, Ukraine owned hundreds of nuclear weapons. President Obama convinced Ukraine to transfer their warheads to Russia.

Would Ukraine have been invaded by Putin if Barack Obama hadn't convinced Kiev to give up their atomic weapons?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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15 Feb 2024 10:18 #16 by FredHayek
Evidence of corruption? It isn't my fault if your limited media access is leaving you uneducated about the truth.
Of course your Democrat approved media sources refuse to write stories about Ukrainian corruption.

Maybe you also didn't read about Hunter Biden and other politically connected sons of politicians like Romney got high paying jobs in Ukraine. The Ukrainians did their part giving cash to political heirs and now Yelensky is calling in those markers.

If Yelensky and his cronies don't get their money, will they tell the stories of these paybacks?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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15 Feb 2024 10:43 #17 by koobookie
So, you got nothing.

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15 Feb 2024 13:48 #18 by FredHayek

The Washington Post & K agree!

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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15 Feb 2024 14:02 #19 by FredHayek

koobookie wrote: So, you got nothing.

:oregonwine: Let me do your research for you and then you will reject it because it doesn't come from your limited media sources of Mother Jones and The New Republic. Win! Win!

Stay in your silo. And defend President Obama who took Ukraine's nuclear weapons creating the current invasion.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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15 Feb 2024 14:13 #20 by koobookie
So, you still got nothing.

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