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You are entitled to your opinion here or anywhere else but after you have read what this forum is all about you might want to remove your foul language.
No need for the lecture, I made a mistake because I was furious. I find some of the statements made on this board much more offensive then the F bomb. If I wanted a lecture, I would have posted on Pinecam. Move it yourself, delete it, don't care.
I don't have time to read all the posts as I am busy so I am not sure if anyone posted this. There are what a couple of his friends said about him on Twitter......
caitieparker @antderosa 'As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy'.
and 'he was a pot head & into rock like Hendrix,The Doors, Anti-Flag'.
Wow...I've read through all of the posts and it makes me sick to read the hate spewing out of LJ.
You know LJ...YOU are the bile that comes after a violent vomit.
How about in honor of the tragedy today we ALL put LJ on IGNORE! Then she'll only have herself to talk to and maybe, just maybe if we're really lucky, she'll finally go far far away!
Today, in an act of terrorism, a nut tried to kill Congressman Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ). Fortunately, contrary to earlier reports, she will live. The police have not released details yet, including whether she was the target, or US District Judge John Roll, who was killed in the attack or someone else.
The aftermath of this act will be felt for sometime to come. It is the end of perhaps two eras here in the United States.
In America, though we might have differences, there were always certain things we could agree on. Conservatives and liberals could discuss and debate issues. That era is gone and the aftermath of today’s shooting is the official obituary for political civility in this country.
Although there was no proof the shooter was involved in conservative politics or the Tea Party, the left went nuts. Immediately after the shooting, the left went after the Tea Party. The Daily Kos went on a rant. On the Hill.com, one of the comments in the story about the shooting was from someone called “AC.” He said:
The Tucson Tea Party will be made to pay for the blood on their hands. An eye for an eye. You want a civil war, you got one. KILL Jesse Kelly for his role, then KILL Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Gleen Beck(sic). Whoever puts BULLETS in ther HEADS shall be a NATIONAL HERO.
On twitter, leftists were going after Sarah Palin in particular. Tweeters castigated Palin because during the election, she had put cross hairs on Giffords’ district, which was closely fought. They were then upset that her Webmaster took the image down. At Tea Party Nation, we were on the receiving end of some of this vitriol from the left.
Someone named “Kathlovestennis” tweeted: @teapartynation Your Hitmap, your hatred, your racism, your anti-semitism, your homophobia have created this hateful act. #repgiffords
Paul Krugman, who is generally an idiot, lived up to his reputation by trying to tie the Tea Party into an incident that has nothing to do with politics.
Traitor to America, Jane Fonda had to add her twitter to the list, blaming both Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck for the shooting, as well as the Tea Party. Why isn’t she in prison for what she did to American POW’s in Vietnam?
The left has simply gone to far. There can be no civil discourse with people as crazy as those on the left are. What that says for the future of this country is tragic.
The second era that may have ended today is the era of easy access to our leaders. America has had a tradition of easy and open access to our leaders. Indeed, Congressman Giffords was at a meeting she called “Congress on the corner” when she was shot. With the exception of the Speaker of the House, neither Congressmen nor Senators have Secret Service protection. They will frequently come to events and meet the public with zero security. That has been the beauty of America. That also may have died today.
Every Senator and Congressman is now reevaluating their personal security, as they all should. The easy contact Americans have enjoyed with their representatives may be a thing of the past. In the future, town hall meetings maybe held in secured locations, such as Federal buildings or over the Internet. Even the political events they attend may become subject to the same strict security we see when the President is speaking.
For today, we can say a prayer for those who lived through the shooting in Arizona, those who did not and their families and for America. Thanks to the hard left, America can now say goodbye to any type of political civility.
UPDATE: In a shocking development, people who knew the shooter are saying he was a ..... liberal.
Right now, on TV here in AZ, our own sherrif, hardly a liberal, is blaming the climate created by the tea party during the very contentious campaign for congress, which she won, as a contributing factor to this heinous act. Also, people interviewed here, about the suspect, claim he was into guns and violence, he was against the current administration and the democratic congress and it's social programs......hardly a left wing nut
Spare me the try-to-get-in-front-of-it proactive crocodile-tears from the Tea Party Nation...
"The collective voice of the right wing on radio and the Internet with its coded and uncoded calls to violence, of "2nd Amendment remedies," of cross hairs superimposed on states and on individuals simply has no visible counterpart on the left. When the right discusses the violent left, it must seek overseas examples or something from decades ago in America's past.
Michael Savage bleating on Savage Nation radio, says: "Only vigilance and resistance to this baby dictator, Barack Hussein Obama, can prevent the Khmer Rouge from appearing in this country." Erick Ericksson at Red State says: "At what point do the people ... march down to their state legislator's house, pull him outside, and beat him to a bloody pulp?"
No matter how it tries, the right cannot divorce itself from the pustulence of its violent rhetoric no matter how many times its practitioners say "not me, not me" after people are murdered for taking these vile imprecations to heart. A few crocodile tears from Glenn Beck won't cut it."
LadyJazzer wrote: For the violence against liberals by right-wingers, off the top of my head, I can think of Harvey Milk, Mayor Moscone, Rep Giffords, John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, (okay, he wasn't an elected politician), liberal talk-show host, Alan Berg (Denver)...
I think the main thing in common with these killings were the killers were nutjobs, rather than "right-wingers" (by that, do you mean conservatives?).
OK, Milk and Moscone were killed by a conservative nut. More of a job anger issue gone wacko bad than a political one, though.
JFK was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald. He was more of a socialist/communist, but still a nut job. Hardly a right-winger.
Robert F. Kennedy by Sirhan Sirhan. He was a Palestinian upset with Kennedy's suppot of Israel during the 6 day war. Or, he colld of just been drunk and angry as he later claimed. Right-wingers generally suppot Israel, unless you go to the extreme neo Nazi area. But, of course, I guess you're just lumping everyone together.
Martin Luther King was killed by James Earl Ray. He was a racist and seperatist who supported George Wallace who ran for president as a Democrat at the time.
Alan Berg was killed by neo Nazis and Klan people. A very extreme bunch.
And as of now, there doesn't seem to be any evidence Rep Giffords was killed by a right-winger. More like another nutjob.