Kill Christians and Jews...it's OK

17 Feb 2011 08:34 - 17 Feb 2011 08:38 #1 by Residenttroll returns
Leader of Palestinian Salafi-Jihadi Group: It Is Permissible to Kill Jewish and Christian Civilians In Jihad, Since They Are 'Fundamentally Not Innocent'

On February 5, 2011, the leader of the Gaza-based Salafi-jihadi group Jama'at Al-Tawhid Wal-Jihad, Sheikh 'Ahed Ahmad 'Abd Al-Karim Al-Sa'idani, known as Abu Al-Walid Al-Maqdisi, issued a fatwa in response to a question about Islam's position on the killing of innocent civilians in the course of "martyrdom operations" such as the 9/11 attacks. The fatwa, posted the website of prominent Salafi ideologue Abu Muhammad Al-Maqdisi, stated that while Islam prohibits the killing of innocents, Jews and Christians may be targeted because they are not innocent but "aggressive combatants."
Abu Al-Walid Al-Maqdisi said that even the danger of harming innocent Muslims did not justify halting or delaying jihad operations, because jihad against the infidels must continue.

Following are excerpts from the fatwa:

"Our shari'a forbids killing innocent people, be they Muslims or infidels... However, in the course of a jihad operation, mistakes can always happen, and this in no sense means that jihad [operations] may be stopped or delayed.

"If by 'innocent people' the inquirer means Jewish or Christian civilians [who live] in the country [where the jihad operation is to take place], then he should know that these people are fundamentally not innocent. Rather, they are aggressive combatants who are party to [the deeds of their leaders] in money, opinion, and counsel. Even if some of them are innocent, but cannot be separated from the aggressors whom the mujahideen aim to target – the [Muslims] scholars have ruled that, in the case of a surprise attack, it permissible to kill all of them [i.e., the bystanders along with the targets]...

"If by 'innocent people' the inquirer means Muslims who may be accidentally hurt during a military operation, [he should know that] it is neither permissible nor reasonable to refrain from fighting the infidels out of fear of hurting some Muslims, because this would mean stopping the jihad. Most of the infidel countries that are fighting Islam have some Muslims living in them. It is inconceivable [to stop the jihad on their account], especially in the current situation, when most Muslim countries are waging defensive jihad."[1]


http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/4993.htm


RT: It's time to start rounding up these knuckleheads and sending them back to the Middle East.

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17 Feb 2011 08:37 #2 by Nobody that matters
But, I don't understand... It's the religion of peace...

"Whatever you are, be a good one." ~ Abraham Lincoln

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17 Feb 2011 08:39 #3 by Residenttroll returns

Nobody that matters wrote: But, I don't understand... It's the religion of peace...


Religion to blow enemy up in pieces.

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17 Feb 2011 08:45 #4 by Nobody that matters

residenttroll wrote:

Nobody that matters wrote: But, I don't understand... It's the religion of peace...


Religion to blow enemy up in pieces.


See, now there's the root of the problem - Translation errors!

"Whatever you are, be a good one." ~ Abraham Lincoln

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17 Feb 2011 09:08 #5 by archer
Wow....they sound like a certain conservative here who wants to kill all the liberals who won't convert to conservatism....It's a cruel world we live in when the only option for some people is to kill those who don't think like they do. I presume, RT, that you are as outraged about your conservative cohort as you are about these muslims.

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17 Feb 2011 09:32 #6 by outdoor338
Nice spin archer, nice spin! You're a liberal moonbat that promotes hate just as bad as LJ. Are you just as outraged about LJ's hate towards christians and support for muslim terrorists?

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17 Feb 2011 09:54 #7 by archer
gee outdoor has LJ ever proposed we kill all the Christians? Stop trying to spin for your fellow conservative, it won't work. I have never seen a single post where a liberal has proposed killing anyone just because they have different views, but I have seen several conservative posts that call for the death of liberals. I know, you're OK with that, you must be because you have never condemned it. Funny you think an attack on ideas, even a personal attack calling someone names, is the same as calling for someone's death, it's very telling about the kind of person you are. Would you kill a fellow American just because they hold different political views than you?

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17 Feb 2011 10:33 #8 by Nmysys
Everything written or said is So Telling to a Liberal Moonbat from Arizona. You are such an elitist snob Archer. You twist everything to make your accusations, while we just throw everything back at you directly. Spin, the weapon of defense for the unarmed Liberal!!!

How come you can't just once respond per the OP? How do you feel about Muslims saying it is okay to kill innocents "Christians and Jews, and even their own kind if they happen to be near"???? Or is that just too much for you to wrap your head around?

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17 Feb 2011 10:39 #9 by outdoor338
Spin queen working overtime today!

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17 Feb 2011 11:01 #10 by archer

Nmysys wrote: Everything written or said is So Telling to a Liberal Moonbat from Arizona. You are such an elitist snob Archer. You twist everything to make your accusations, while we just throw everything back at you directly. Spin, the weapon of defense for the unarmed Liberal!!!

How come you can't just once respond per the OP? How do you feel about Muslims saying it is okay to kill innocents "Christians and Jews, and even their own kind if they happen to be near"???? Or is that just too much for you to wrap your head around?



I sure can wrap my head around it......you think it is wrong for muslims to want to kill Christians and Jews......I do too.....you think it is OK for conservatives to want to kill liberals because they have different opinions than they do.....I do not.

Got it? It's really very simple, if you would stop your head from spinning out of control for one tiny moment you could probably comprehend it.

You will use whatever deflection you can think up to avoid having to deal with the fact that one of your own is no better than the muslims you profess to hate. I have never seen a single post where any of you have directly commented on the call for the death of liberals.

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