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Jun 09 18:25:50 <Soozee> Wind picked up - they are not going to put any fire on the ground now
Jun 09 18:26:01 <pinecamguy> I have changed the cam to update every 5 minutes.. I can't get the entire plume (bottom to top) in the picture..
Jun 09 18:26:20 <AC44> Ty PCG
Jun 09 18:26:20 <tjet500> From what I have read, I gather this fire is moving west to east and Deckers/Trumball is in its path, am I correct?......
Jun 09 18:27:22 <tjet500> We live in Burland, I saw no evacuations for us, I assume we are not in it's path?
Jun 09 18:27:32 <Soozee> I think you are ok........
Jun 09 18:28:05 <tjet500> Understand this was a campfire, I am amazzed anyone would do such a thing with all the warnings
Jun 09 18:28:16 <mtnmed> do they know who it was???
Jun 09 18:28:22 <Soozee> They were probably from Denver... lol
Jun 09 18:28:23 <pinecone> the smallest things amuse Soozee!
Jun 09 18:28:35 <RFoster> Hrm, the lines are down or the Main lodge has burned, the machine there isn't picking up.......
Jun 09 18:30:34 <Soozee> they are blocking road 58
Jun 09 18:30:36 <siloxane> I agree tjet. I didn't know if we'd make it through memorial day weekend.
Jun 09 18:30:44 <carpetgal> why is there a road block at cty rd 68
Jun 09 18:31:06 <Soozee> county road 68 near Wellington Lake......
Jun 09 18:31:08 <carpetgal> Near Wellington Lake
Jun 09 18:31:09 <woodsidewillie> road 68 near wellington
Jun 09 18:31:11 <Soozee> They need a road block.......
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Jun 09 18:35:28 <woodsidewillie> the rest of the country is being told that all of colorado is on fire (according to the inlaws)
Jun 09 18:35:56 <siloxane> that's the way it looks from the sattelite photo woodsidewillie!
Jun 09 18:35:56 <mtnmed> well it practically is!!
Jun 09 18:36:12 <carpetgal> fire is making major run towards 211. Crowning.
Jun 09 18:36:15 <mtnvicky> Anyone know about the legalities of banning campers ?
Jun 09 18:36:16 <Soozee> Fire is taking major crown run to the north
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Jun 09 18:36:26 <RicardoGigante> the firefighter on the radio is at Flying G ranch and said they are completly safe
Jun 09 18:36:40 <chuffman> One state for sale, slightly singed, best offer by next Friday takes it all!
Jun 09 18:36:56 <Soozee> lol
Jun 09 18:36:56 * pinecone tries to figure out the humor in it.....
Jun 09 18:36:59 <carpetgal> Ffire may have crossed forest rd 560
Jun 09 18:37:06 <pinecamguy> Okay, go to this URL and click on the pictures taken over the past 12 hours..
Jun 09 18:37:07 <pinecamguy> http://www.pinecam.com/archive/...... .
Jun 09 18:37:31 <woodsidewillie> said they have a big safety zone by the lodge at lost valley ranch
Jun 09 18:37:45 <pinksbuddy> Rob, hope this works....
Jun 09 18:38:26 <mtnvicky> Does Gov Owens have the authority to ban camping ?......
Jun 09 18:38:37 <Soozee> I am sure he does
Jun 09 18:38:47 <Soozee> FIREWORKS ON QUAKIE WAY!
Jun 09 18:38:51 <siloxane> He had the authority to ban fireworks, I don't know about camping.....
Jun 09 18:38:51 <woodsidewillie> fireworks reported on Quakie way
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Jun 09 18:38:58 <Soozee> I am sure our sherrif can ban them, too
Jun 09 18:39:04 <siloxane> Someone is using fireworks?
Jun 09 18:39:14 <Soozee> yep!
Jun 09 18:39:18 <carpetgal> Today isn't Fathers Day is it
Jun 09 18:39:18 <mtnvicky> Wish he'd do it ! We have enough problems with mother nature. Also, wish they'd totally ban fireworks !
Jun 09 18:39:21 <Soozee> in Burland
Jun 09 18:39:26 <siloxane> Brilliant.
Jun 09 18:39:29 * RFoster sighs
Jun 09 18:39:37 <woodsidewillie> firworks ARE banned up here
Jun 09 18:39:40 <siloxane> Fathersday is next sunday
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Jun 09 18:39:54 <carpetgal> thank goodness. Thought I forgot to call my Dad
Jun 09 18:40:00 <mtnvicky> Guess I didn't know the fireworks were banned. Last I heard it was up to the counties.
Jun 09 18:40:08 <siloxane> I would think firworks would always be banned in the mountains.
Jun 09 18:40:15 <mtnvicky> They should be !
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Jun 09 18:40:20 <dillykat> I think we should drop fire slurry on all the campers
Jun 09 18:40:25 <mtnvicky> Amen !.....
Jun 09 18:40:26 <RFoster> http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/psicc/fire/hayman/ says there there is One injury, anyone heard who that is on their scanners?......
Jun 09 18:40:42 <mtnvicky> I heard someone had chest pains - maybe heart attack.
Jun 09 18:40:49 <Soozee> no, and I am not even sure where that injury was
Jun 09 18:40:57 <carpetgal> Heard it on the news rfoster. Don't think it is on your ranch though......
Jun 09 18:41:24 <AC44> Channel 7 said one fireman- possible heart attack.......
Jun 09 18:41:39 <pinecamguy> Anyone know if the fire burns faster or slower when it goes through an already burned area?
Jun 09 18:41:43 <carpetgal> just had ham guy say that all are safe at both lost valley and Flying G
Jun 09 18:41:43 <AC44> That's for RF - no scanner confirm on that - unless someone here knows.....
Jun 09 18:41:53 <AC44> Slower
Jun 09 18:41:58 <pinecamguy> thanks
Jun 09 18:41:59 <AC44> He was a firefighter.
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Jun 09 18:42:01 <Jellomold> Fire crossing forest road 211. Any1 know where that is??
Jun 09 18:42:05 <AC44> Volunteer -yw......
Jun 09 18:42:41 <chuffman> FR 211 is Goose Creek road on my map
Jun 09 18:42:42 <Raptr> is anyone here the person who sent the PM on the message boards?
Jun 09 18:42:42 <pinecone> yes Raptr, I'm here. What do you need?
Jun 09 18:42:50 <AC44> 211 south edge of Lost Creek Wilderness - from our maps
Jun 09 18:42:58 <RFoster> 211 is west/SW of the ranch, and the res it connects tarryall to the ranch and then from there to deskers(that a generalization)
Jun 09 18:43:07 <kwille> FR 211 is just SW of Jefferson/Douglas/Teller county line intersection
Jun 09 18:43:26 <Raptr> im gonna go get a few new pics of the fire........
Jun 09 18:43:37 <KurtBoyer> Fire is HUGE, processing about 20 pics I just took.
Jun 09 18:43:37 <Jellomold> Where is FR211 in relation to 67?
Jun 09 18:44:04 <AC44> East of of 211.....
Jun 09 18:44:50 <kwille> 67 is about 6 miles east of 211.....
Jun 09 18:48:05 <Raptr> yeah .. theyll be small .. i use dialup too Jun 09 18:46:09 <Raptr> hey kurt. Want a pic from my house. Very very ugly but its a good pic
Jun 09 18:46:29 <fancy2> Has the fire jumped 67 yet?
Jun 09 18:46:29 <carpetgal> here she goes up again
Jun 09 18:46:32 * pinecone is cleaning the bunny hutch.
Jun 09 18:46:58 <kwille> 211 is also known as Goose Creek Road
Jun 09 18:47:10 <chuffman> 211 branches off 67 south of Deckers
Jun 09 18:47:26 <pinecamguy> This looks like Mount St. Helens
Jun 09 18:47:30 <KurtBoyer> raptr, you can send pics toif you'd like (keep em small...dialup)
Jun 09 18:47:45 <fancy2> Hi Carpetgal, I am back from Canon, it does not look good from here in BV either, we can now see the
Jun 09 18:48:10 <pinecamguy> Where is Wilkerson?
Jun 09 18:48:16 <pinksbuddy> Pinecamguy, I was sitting in my backyard in Portland when St. Helens went up
Jun 09 18:48:25 <carpetgal> Firefighters say it is also running to the south south east towards sugarloaf Mtn
Jun 09 18:48:31 <pinksbuddy> It was just as you say. This looks the same.
Jun 09 18:48:43 <fancy2> Wilkerson Pass is just west of Terryall lake
Jun 09 18:48:54 <Raptr> brb
Jun 09 18:48:55 <pinecone> we'll be here when you get back.
Jun 09 18:48:58 <pinecamguy> Oh, yeah........
Jun 09 18:49:31 <pinecamguy> I absolutely cannot get this from top to bottom in the pinecam pic.. zoomed all the way out..
Jun 09 18:49:36 <chuffman> Oops, make that 211 branches off S. Deckers Road south of Deckers
Jun 09 18:49:37 * pinecone laughs, too
Jun 09 18:50:03 <AC44> Mr AC and I out on deck.....plumes so high over PJ -
Jun 09 18:50:11 <Jellomold> I'm not seeing the fire roads on my software maps but I get the gist, thatnks.
Jun 09 18:50:11 <KurtBoyer> If this wind changes, and starts blowing towards our house, we are gonna have to leave.
Jun 09 18:50:14 <Guest44608> 211 is the rd that goes from cr126 to cheesman
Jun 09 18:50:14 <AC44> No wonder you can't get it PCG....it is huge
Jun 09 18:50:19 <AC44> Wind shifted
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Jun 09 18:50:36 <dancinbbear> Kurt where are u?.....
Jun 09 18:50:49 <KurtBoyer> swiss village, Pine, CO
Jun 09 18:50:59 <KurtBoyer> not near fire yet, but smoke could be very bad.
Jun 09 18:51:19 <fancy2> We are getting the haze from all the surrounding fires in the state, the Sherriff just came on the Radio there are no fires here
Jun 09 18:51:19 <fancy2> in Chaffee County
Jun 09 18:51:22 <Jellomold> Ha! found 211, thanks.
Jun 09 18:51:33 <Raptr> kurt. can you give me the email to send the piture to again plz.....
Jun 09 18:51:41 <KurtBoyer>![]()
Jun 09 18:51:43 <dancinbbear> i am in Pine, other side of 285
Jun 09 18:51:55 <fancy2> I have an extra house here if anyone needs to stay here in Buena Vista
Jun 09 18:52:10 <AC44> Looks like from here you could have that Kurt
Jun 09 18:52:32 <fancy2> Is Hwy 24 open?
Jun 09 18:52:39 <carpetgal> here comes another nuclear holocaust plume
Jun 09 18:52:50 <kwille> Its huge!
Jun 09 18:52:50 <KurtBoyer> yeah, I'm sitting here processing pics while my wife is wrestling with our girls.
Jun 09 18:52:56 <Jellomold> We're still south of Cheesman right?
Jun 09 18:53:24 <Raptr> k kurt. Pic on the way. its 150 kb .. shouldnt take too long.....
Jun 09 18:53:50 <pinecamguy> Fancy2. Thanks
Jun 09 18:54:05 <pinecamguy> these firefighters sound so calm.......
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Jun 09 18:55:43 <fancy2> We have a Sherriffs deputy sitting on top of Trout Creek pass watching the Plume of smoke
Jun 09 18:55:55 <carpetgal> forecast does not look good for next few days
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Jun 09 18:56:08 <carpetgal> new this one was gonna be bad.
Jun 09 18:56:09 <AC44> No it doesn't CG.......
Jun 09 18:56:38 <carpetgal> fire burning in Park teller and jeffco
Jun 09 18:56:42 <fancy2> yep the cool down we were expecting went to Montana instead
Jun 09 18:56:46 <KurtBoyer> "gusts of 40mph on the ridge"
Jun 09 18:56:46 <pinecamguy> winds will not die down tonight.. red flag warning continues for tomorrow until 10pm..
Jun 09 18:56:50 <mtnvicky> Sure miss our daily rains we used to have........
Jun 09 18:56:56 <pinecamguy> Winds 18 to 28 mph with 40 mph gusts onj the ridges
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Jun 09 18:57:14 <RFoster> I've been afk for a while there doesn't seem to be any decent info on the web or tv, whats the lastest that I might of missed?
Jun 09 18:57:18 <carpetgal> this one is gonna rage all night
Jun 09 18:57:20 <Raptr-BUSY>......
Jun 09 18:57:37 <Raptr> I posted newest know info about fire there
Jun 09 18:57:50 <markb> 7 news said the fire was at 2500 acres
Jun 09 18:57:57 <Guest44608> wild cat cayon is on those's counties lines
Jun 09 18:58:05 <mtnvicky> One of the channels said 5000 acres........
Jun 09 18:58:08 <Raptr> 25,700 acres and counting
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Jun 09 18:58:19 <fancy2> it has got to be more than 2500 acres by now.......
Jun 09 18:58:25 <carpetgal> fire is now more than 25k acres. got a report earlier from a ham guy that all firefighters were safe on both lost valley and flying g
Jun 09 18:58:37 <markb> came inside from looking at the cloud over head
Jun 09 18:58:40 <fancy2> another source just said between 25K and 35K
Jun 09 18:58:50 <Raptr> USFS is reporting 25,700 as of 4 pm
Jun 09 18:58:52 <markb> thought the news said 2500 but 25k sounds about right
Jun 09 18:59:05 <KurtBoyer> "fire still all around them, accountability still code 4" (requiring no additional assistance)
Jun 09 18:59:06 <Kilowatt> usfs says 27500 and counting like raptr said.......
Jun 09 18:59:17 <RicardoGigante> Put out a call for all red card firefighters for tomorrow. Spread the word
Jun 09 18:59:28 <Raptr> got ur 7 and 5 switched kilo ..
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Jun 09 18:59:33 <KurtBoyer> Red cards for Platte Canyon FD
Jun 09 18:59:37 <fancy2> Gov Owens declared Glenwood Springs Top Priority??? why??......
Jun 09 18:59:46 <carpetgal> homes and people
Jun 09 18:59:47 <Kilowatt> oops,, yep,, sory
Jun 09 18:59:47 * pinecone smiles
Jun 09 18:59:51 <RicardoGigante> closer to Aspen!?
Jun 09 18:59:54 <Kilowatt> dyslexic fingers
Jun 09 19:00:00 <carpetgal> :0 richard
Jun 09 19:00:33 <carpetgal> more people and homes are threatened in Glenwood
Jun 09 19:00:42 <fancy2> Seems to me that this fire is getting closer to Woodland, and Colorado Springs? Am I correct?
Jun 09 19:00:47 <KurtBoyer> MAP: has anyone found an online map that has hwy 211?
Jun 09 19:00:54 <AC44> Red Cards - retired firefighters?
Jun 09 19:01:11 <AC44> Not on line
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Jun 09 19:01:24 <KurtBoyer> ok, I'll search for a bit.
Jun 09 19:01:33 <RicardoGigante> The plume is blowing directly over our house, due north. Not to the east like it was earlier......
Jun 09 19:01:46 <fancy2> Wigwam now under mandatory evacuations
Jun 09 19:01:47 <Jellomold> KB- what about topozone??
Jun 09 19:02:02 <KurtBoyer> looking there first Jello.......
Jun 09 19:02:35 <RicardoGigante> The plume is blowing directly over our house, due north. Not to the east like it was earlier
Jun 09 19:02:42 <carpetgal> here comes another big plume.
Jun 09 19:02:47 <Raptr> im lookin for one too.......
Jun 09 19:02:56 <fancy2> ricardo where do you live??
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Jun 09 19:03:11 <RicardoGigante> they are calling for 40mph winds. Hope it doesn't blow it due north, or we all will be worried
Jun 09 19:03:19 <RicardoGigante> Pine Junction
Jun 09 19:03:21 <Raptr> what town is Highway 211 near?
Jun 09 19:03:30 <woodsidewillie> 211 shows up on microsoft streets
Jun 09 19:03:31 <KurtBoyer> Next purchase with our donations will be some sort of bad ass mapping program.
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Jun 09 19:03:39 <pinecamguy> YES!
Jun 09 19:03:44 <RicardoGigante> si!
Jun 09 19:03:53 <pinecamguy> pictures
Jun 09 19:03:53 <pinecone> well, pinecamguy: to see what people in the chat room look like, double-click on this URL: http://www.hwy285.com/pinepix.html..... .
Jun 09 19:03:59 <carpetgal> fire is definately changing directiomn
Jun 09 19:03:59 <pinecone> it's very likely you're right!
Jun 09 19:04:00 <Kilowatt> Tell me how much it is kurt,,
Jun 09 19:04:11 <KurtBoyer> okdok Kilo:
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Jun 09 19:04:14 <Soozee> Hahaha!!!!! Kanary just left!
Jun 09 19:04:15 <woodsidewillie> FR211 is just west of deckers
Jun 09 19:04:15 <pinecone> that cracks me up
Jun 09 19:04:15 <AC44> Has to be Carpetgal
Jun 09 19:04:26 <Kilowatt> searching like this is a bear!!!
Jun 09 19:04:40 <Soozee> Find out a couple of good programs and let me know what you want - I may be able to get them
Jun 09 19:04:47 <carpetgal> plumes are definately rising from more to the east
Jun 09 19:04:49 <Soozee> that is if you don't mind a bootleg....
Jun 09 19:04:51 <KurtBoyer> thx Soozee.
Jun 09 19:04:53 <Raptr> any1 know a good mapping program to get
Jun 09 19:05:01 <RicardoGigante> Kurt, I didn't know that Bad A** Software made a mapping program!?
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Jun 09 19:05:41 <KurtBoyer> Ricardo: yes, and it kicks butt.
Jun 09 19:05:42 <fancy2> Per my scanner the fire is heading due North
Jun 09 19:05:51 <Raptr> Well .. i found highway 211 pn MS Flight Simulator but that does not good
Jun 09 19:05:57 <carpetgal> firefighters are talking about a structure loss but they didn't say where
Jun 09 19:06:03 <RicardoGigante> did you see your update pic Kurt?
Jun 09 19:06:04 <woodsidewillie> i have delorme at the office, may run to get it
Jun 09 19:06:08 <AC44> Just eyeballing it is heading due north
Jun 09 19:06:09 <AC44> here
Jun 09 19:06:11 <dillykat> DeLorme's Topo USA give you topos of the entire USA for under $100
Jun 09 19:06:20 <KurtBoyer> no, I will though.
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Jun 09 19:06:50 <tjet500> I am afraid the state needs to think about shuting down the parks this summer unless we get rain. Seams as though some people never eever learn. I also hope the Governor imposeds a minimum 5 year jail sentence for anyone caught with campfires, grills etc.r
Jun 09 19:06:50 <pinecone> where there's a will...
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Jun 09 19:07:23 <fancy2> The cause of the Hayman fire was definetly a campfire
Jun 09 19:07:24 <markb> you know the small towns and businesses that depend on campers.......
Jun 09 19:08:26 <KurtBoyer> Ricardo, saw the updated text. Thanks.
Jun 09 19:08:49 <tjet500> Then if the laws won't protect us I propose the citizens handle the matter by whatever meansd neccesary. I think a guilty individual with an eqtinguished fire and enough injuries to force them to think is way better than hundreds of firefighters at risk, lost homes etc.....sud
Jun 09 19:08:56 <RicardoGigante> don't thank me, thank Soozee! hehehehehe
Jun 09 19:08:56 * pinecone drops his pickled egg
Jun 09 19:08:56 <carpetgal> ricardo, I can't get to your pix page
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Jun 09 19:09:27 <meeb> fire
Jun 09 19:09:27 <pinecone> The smoke you are seeing and smelling is from the Hayman Fire 6 miles NW of lake george. Please read this topic for real-time updates: http://www.pinecam.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=176
Jun 09 19:09:28 <RicardoGigante> which one CG? http://www.hwy285.com/pinepix.html
Jun 09 19:09:47 <tjet500> Those small towns and business's may risk extinction if this situation continues.
Jun 09 19:09:48 <markb> the small towns and businesses will see this as a state problem
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Jun 09 19:10:12 <fancy2> Well I gotta go for now, I will check back later
Jun 09 19:10:12 <markb> the state legisture won't go for shutting down the state so to speak
Jun 09 19:10:12 <pinecone> See ya fancy2......
Jun 09 19:10:14 <meeb> can any body give me a clearer idea how close hayman is to spring creek reanch...
Jun 09 19:10:42 <meeb> the smoke is up over my house at the present time.......
Jun 09 19:10:50 <AC44> Maybe we should put a gate on 285? If no address from here...downthey go...not feasible of course
Jun 09 19:10:51 <markb> it would be the "protect me" syndrome for the towns and busineses
Jun 09 19:11:05 <tjet500> We got back home in Burland an hour ago and the plume has gortten much worse.....
Jun 09 19:11:15 <pinecamguy> Where is Spring Creek Ranch?
Jun 09 19:11:17 <meeb> and the sherrif at buffalo creek said this was hotter and worse than schoonhaven
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Jun 09 19:11:33 <meeb> hey pcg you're back
Jun 09 19:11:34 <AC44> MR AC looking...
Jun 09 19:11:41 <AC44> What is it near ?
Jun 09 19:11:42 <carpetgal> it is off 126 PCG
Jun 09 19:11:43 <chuffman> We could do it in Park Co, AC44, no jury would convict us of anything.
Jun 09 19:11:48 <dancinbbear> I agree Ac44
Jun 09 19:11:52 <pinecamguy> Yeah,we left the Coal Seam fire to come up to this.. meeb
Jun 09 19:11:54 <meeb> 126 rt near buffalo creek north fork fire station
Jun 09 19:12:06 <carpetgal> why PCG
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Jun 09 19:12:19 <pinecamguy> somebody asked how close it was to Spring Creek Ranch
Jun 09 19:12:20 <AC44> yes, Chuff and dancin
Jun 09 19:12:40 <carpetgal> everyone is safe at Lost Valley Ranch and things are looking good RFoster
Jun 09 19:12:41 <markb> it is also to bad that nothing will happen to the campers that started this fire
Jun 09 19:12:42 <meeb> me 0 meeb
Jun 09 19:12:56 <AC44> Checking map coming right down 126 - still no Spring Creek
Jun 09 19:12:59 <dillykat> lost one outbuilding at lost valley ranch
Jun 09 19:13:10 <carpetgal> 1 outbuilding has been lost but all others are in tact
Jun 09 19:13:18 <AC44> Hope that is confirm CG ! Great.....
Jun 09 19:13:23 <markb> spring creek ranch is on hwy 67 just past buffalo creek
Jun 09 19:13:27 <carpetgal> 12 Firefighters and 1 engine at lost valley
Jun 09 19:13:29 <woodsidewillie> spring creek ranch is on 126 at the top of the hill as you go out of Buffalo creek
Jun 09 19:13:33 <meeb> ac44 i'll settle for how close is it to buffalo creek
Jun 09 19:13:37 <pinecamguy> oh.. yeah. between buffalo creek and deckers..
Jun 09 19:13:54 <carpetgal> came right from the firefighters at the ranch
Jun 09 19:13:55 <woodsidewillie> kind of across from the turn off to top of the world campground
Jun 09 19:13:59 <Raptr> i ahve comptons 3d world atlas .. let me install and see if i can find aything at all on it
Jun 09 19:14:09 <pinecamguy> My best gestimate would be 5-7 miles away from Spring CReek
Jun 09 19:14:16 <AC44> Great new CG, for you RF
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