8 Years Ago -- The Hayman Wildfire

Jun 09 19:15:22 <RFoster> For anyone that wishes to know: I looks like there was some misinformation going round, we got in contact with the people out at the ranch and to total confirmed structures burned there is 2. There's forest damage south of the ranch all the way up to it, But much of the structures appear to be for all intents and purposes fine. One cabin caught fire, but was put out.
Jun 09 19:15:40 <pinecamguy> willie, is that as the ember flies, or via the highway?
Jun 09 19:15:41 <Jellomold> Streets and Trips is still tried and true for me. ONly about 6 bucks at Costco.
Jun 09 19:15:50 <carpetgal> Just reported that to ya Rfoster
Jun 09 19:15:52 <woodsidewillie> pcg, strightline
Jun 09 19:15:54 <RicardoGigante> Great RFoster. Thanx for the update
Jun 09 19:15:58 <Raptr> im getting MS Automap from a friend right now. should have it in an hr or so depending on how long he takes to get here
Jun 09 19:16:02 <Kilowatt> thanks goodness Foster!!!
Jun 09 19:16:03 <RFoster> Oh. =) Hehe, I was on the phone.
Jun 09 19:16:03 * pinecone has beer coming out of his nose......

Jun 09 19:16:19 <carpetgal> We wanted you to know asap
Jun 09 19:16:23 <AC44> Yes, good news!
Jun 09 19:16:38 <RicardoGigante> CG, get to the site?
Jun 09 19:16:54 <carpetgal> what site RG
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Jun 09 19:17:05 <RicardoGigante> the picture site you could not get to?
Jun 09 19:17:10 <Raptr> mommy is yelling that ive been here all day .. she wants to me to east finnaly and pick up my room .. hehe .. brb
Jun 09 19:17:10 * pinecone finds it mildly amusing, too
Jun 09 19:17:10 <AC44> There is a Spring Creek Gulch on our map, but not Ranch -
Jun 09 19:17:11 <RFoster> Thankyoumuch carpetgal, and to everyong that's relayed me information. And thankyous to everyone for their prayers, looks like they were heard.
Jun 09 19:17:21 <Jellomold> Great news RF!.......

Jun 09 19:18:17 <AC44> Does anyone know how far north the fire has reached?
Jun 09 19:18:17 <carpetgal> God Bless you nad your family RFoster
Jun 09 19:18:36 <Soozee> RF_ very good news indeed
Jun 09 19:18:44 <Raptr> KurtBoyer, You get that pic i sent you yet?
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Jun 09 19:18:49 <Jellomold> My blood-sugar is dangerously low. Jello- out.
Jun 09 19:18:54 <carpetgal> sounds like it has run a ways up 211 and may have crossed forest service rd 560
Jun 09 19:18:55 <Soozee> Just heard that all is ok at the ranch - your dad is ok and 2 ranch hands - all ok
Jun 09 19:19:00 <ERS> Hi all.
Jun 09 19:19:01 <KurtBoyer> yes Raptr. havent had time to post , but I will
Jun 09 19:19:22 <Raptr> thats fine. whenever u get time
Jun 09 19:19:22 <dillykat> fire is about 10 miles southwest of spring creek......

Jun 09 19:19:42 <woodsidewillie> kurt, tried to email the map with FR 211 on it to you
Jun 09 19:19:48 <Raptr> US Forest Service report 31k acres consumed
Jun 09 19:19:57 <KurtBoyer> thx willie
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Jun 09 19:20:14 <pinecamguy> where'd you get that Raptr?.......

Jun 09 19:22:17 <ERS> hey kurt and wayne hope you don't mind I have been sending people here for a resource on stuff like scanners and the fires.
Jun 09 19:22:20 <woodsidewillie> kurt, did the map email work?
Jun 09 19:22:33 <meeb> fire folk just came by here at spring creek
Jun 09 19:22:44 <rfg> yellowstone...1.2mil
Jun 09 19:22:48 <KurtBoyer> HWY 211 MAP: thanks to Willie: http://www.pinecam.com/images/hayman/hwy211.gif
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Jun 09 19:23:03 <meeb> say it's about 8 miles or so and west of cheeseman from here
Jun 09 19:23:14 <AC44> Kurt, ERS said soemthing up a few lines
Jun 09 19:23:19 <meeb> looking to give people a heads up
Jun 09 19:23:26 <carpetgal> are they worried about youguys meeb?
Jun 09 19:23:43 <tjet500> Pinecone, beer, chicken fried steak.....
Jun 09 19:23:45 <pinecone> hope there are no vegitarians in here. But just in case ... if God wanted us to be vegetarians, he wouldn't have made animals out of meat!
Jun 09 19:23:45 <AC44> Am sure they don't mind ERS....
Jun 09 19:23:57 <ERS> hehe I know..
Jun 09 19:23:57 <pinecone> what sense of humor you have.
Jun 09 19:24:02 <meeb> not yet, but they're asking us to be prepared
Jun 09 19:24:06 <AC44> Good!
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Jun 09 19:24:22 <woodsidewillie> kurt if that worked, let me know what ofher areas you want and i can clip maps......

Jun 09 19:25:43 <meeb> fire folk at my door said it's moved about 12 miles from source......

Jun 09 19:26:06 <meeb> that's approx 1/2 mile per hour, give or take.......

Jun 09 19:29:44 <pinecamguy> Just got info frm Channel weather.. the fire is so big it has created it's own thunderstorm.. getting calls of people hearing thunder..
Jun 09 19:29:56 <Raptr> pinecone calc 25000*640
Jun 09 19:29:57 <pinecone> Raptr: 16000000.000000
Jun 09 19:30:05 <carpetgal> that is just to scary PCG.......

Jun 09 19:30:21 <pinecamguy> now,if it would just make it rain..
Jun 09 19:30:21 <pinecone> I'm not so sure.
Jun 09 19:30:25 <pinecamguy> it could put itself out
Jun 09 19:30:31 <chuffman> Pinecone calc 25000/640*43560/9
Jun 09 19:30:31 <pinecone> chuffman: 189062.500000
Jun 09 19:30:34 <carpetgal> that would be cool......

Jun 09 19:31:03 <carpetgal> are there any school out off park county 68?
Jun 09 19:31:03 <JRairdon> The forest service update posted at 7:00 says the fire is 19,200 acres and the fire has "split". No further details given.
Jun 09 19:31:04 <chuffman> err, I mean yards
Jun 09 19:31:13 <tjet500> From what I heard, the rain we were supposed to get is skipping north of us....how the @$#!! long is it before we are going to get decent rain.....s........

Jun 09 19:36:42 <carpetgal> fire is flaring up again
Jun 09 19:36:44 <windypete> dancinbbear this is cool i am so happy i can get to you when tthe phone is busy like now i will say online for quite a while to make sure uou and john and ash are ok
Jun 09 19:36:59 <dancinbbear> we will be fine
Jun 09 19:37:00 <tjet500> The guy we bought our house from cut a whole bunch but left the slash all over, much we have to bring down bout 200 ft to access the chipper
Jun 09 19:37:07 <JRairdon> The wind is shifting, we're getting smoke for the first time here in Indian Hills.
Jun 09 19:37:14 <pinecamguy> dancinbear, where are you located?
Jun 09 19:37:40 <carpetgal> no smoke in Bailey.
Jun 09 19:37:41 <barrye> Where can I find current info on the Hayman Fire?
Jun 09 19:37:41 <dancinbbear> mountain view lakes
Jun 09 19:38:00 <carpetgal> I think we should take up a collection and get Northfork fire some new radios
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Jun 09 19:38:27 <nylinda> wind shifting coming west to me at conifer mt.
Jun 09 19:38:30 <dancinbbear> grr every time I type I almost get disconected from net
Jun 09 19:38:30 <carpetgal> barr go to the discussion board or the blogger on Pinecam
Jun 09 19:38:31 <AC44> Smoke from our deck in PJ has shifted back the way it was ......

Jf, yes, that was what I was thinking of. Thanks for posting it here.

Jun 09 19:39:25 <tjet500> From Burland, it looks like the heavy source of smoke and probably fire activity has worked Ease noticably in the past hourj
Jun 09 19:39:28 <EVHills> "/nick <newname>"
Jun 09 19:39:38 <Raptr> type in /nick <nick>
Jun 09 19:39:39 <dancinbbear> hey dad call me when u leave
Jun 09 19:39:41 <tjet500> Thats east...nont ease
Jun 09 19:39:42 <JRairdon> Between TinyTown and Kittridge, Parmalee Gulch Road
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Jun 09 19:39:57 <woodsidewillie> anybody get that jeffco road closure?
Jun 09 19:40:04 <carpetgal> No evac for Park Cty rd 68. No one further south than Wellington Lake. Locals only have access
Jun 09 19:40:07 <Raptr> mmmm .. food .. i havent eaten since 6:30
Jun 09 19:40:16 <pinecamguy> good fire summary on my "real job" web site:
Jun 09 19:40:25 <woodsidewillie> ok, thanks cg.......

Jun 09 19:41:00 <carpetgal> another big blow up according to the horizon.....

Jun 09 19:41:12 <KurtBoyer> thanks PCG. It was SOOOOO LONNNG before thedenverchannel had any substantial coverage of this fire.
Jun 09 19:41:13 <robertz> tell the chopper guys the live video was incredible
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Jun 09 19:41:27 <JRairdon> Check out http://www.fs.fed.us/rs/psicc/fire/hayman/index.htm for fire status
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Jun 09 19:41:51 <tjet500> I think I'llk stsy on here, that way my mother in law cannot call me from Buffalo NY and ttell me how I put my family at risk for moving back to the mountains from KCMO....then again, we had to hide under the stairs 3 times last year due to tornado sirens
Jun 09 19:41:57 <pinecamguy> robertz, will do
Jun 09 19:42:06 <Raptr> they have had inacurate info for last hour
Jun 09 19:42:28 <chuffman> Did you live near a trailer park tjet?
Jun 09 19:42:36 <nylinda> lol tjet
Jun 09 19:42:36 <pinecone> ever think of doing stand up comedy?.......

Jun 09 19:44:42 <carpetgal> It is so scary to see thos blowing up so laTE IN THE DAY
Jun 09 19:44:51 <tjet500> Rain' what's that we hardly get any of that, this storm is skipping Northj of us too. Wayne, lets have another parade, the last one brought on the precip but with our luck all we'd get is ants
Jun 09 19:44:51 <pinecone> no way.
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Jun 09 19:45:05 <pinecamguy> they said the winds will not diminish tonight, Sooz
Jun 09 19:45:08 <Meadow> evening neighbors........

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Jun 09 19:45:30 <Meadow> how's everyone faring tonight?
Jun 09 19:45:35 <jen_B> Hi meadow!!!!!!!
Jun 09 19:45:45 <pinecamguy> Hi meadow fire!!!
Jun 09 19:45:46 <Meadow> hi Jen
Jun 09 19:45:57 <Meadow> hi pincamguy..hey!!
Jun 09 19:45:58 <tjet500> Considering if I should go to work tomorrow....thats the first thought meadow....
Jun 09 19:45:58 <Meadow> lol
Jun 09 19:45:58 * pinecone sprays beer across the room, laughing
Jun 09 19:46:12 <Meadow> everyone safe?
Jun 09 19:46:29 <Meadow> tjet take the day off.......

Jun 09 19:48:07 <AC44> Looks like it may have blown up again from PJ
Jun 09 19:48:15 <AC44> Another big plume.......

Jun 09 19:48:51 <Raptr> i live on munt bailey. it is ugly outside my house
Jun 09 19:49:13 <pinecamguy> I think when/if it tops Green Mountain/Buffalo Mountain they'll start evacuating up here...
Jun 09 19:49:17 <Meadow> wow AC
Jun 09 19:49:31 <Meadow> where is Mt. Bailey
Jun 09 19:49:37 <tjet500> My cross the street neighbor has a tree service, we talked in February that the question is Where, not when or if on the big one, wonder if this is it, or ho many/much more we have to enduree the next 4 monthsof
Jun 09 19:49:38 <Meadow> I really need to get me some topo maps
Jun 09 19:49:42 <AC44> Well, looks like it........

Jun 09 19:49:47 <barrye> Is it close to Green Mountain?
Jun 09 19:49:54 <Raptr> u know where the town of bailey is?
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Jun 09 19:50:12 <jen_B> Where is Mount Bailey ?
Jun 09 19:50:37 <Meadow> yes Rap
Jun 09 19:50:39 <pinecamguy> Green Mountain down here.. not the one in Denver
Jun 09 19:50:44 <Raptr> Its the mountain (other than dick mountain) in bailey with a large cell phone tower on it
Jun 09 19:50:51 <pinecamguy> Mountain Bailey is the "mountain" on the south side of crow hill
Jun 09 19:50:55 <Raptr> Its right next to the town.......

Jun 09 19:52:10 <RFoster> 9 news is reported that the people they were trying to rescue by helecopter where hikers.
Jun 09 19:52:11 <Raptr> no .. it was the Mount Bailey Fire. Buffalo creek was long ways away
Jun 09 19:52:22 <Meadow> Rap ohhh
Jun 09 19:52:29 <pinecamguy> GReen Mountain is the east side of Stoney Pass. Buffalo Mountain is the west side.. just south of Wellington Lake
Jun 09 19:52:31 <Raptr> Weve only evacuated once and that was during snaking fire
Jun 09 19:52:44 <tjet500> Mt bailey is right behind the burland park off rcty rd 72 it is the tall mountain with the cewll towers about 1700 ft overt bailey, s side of crow hill
Jun 09 19:52:59 <robertz> will chopper fly again tomite?
Jun 09 19:53:03 <pinecamguy> nooo......

Jun 09 19:54:05 <JRairdon> thedenverchannel.com is reporting that eight hikers were rescued.
Jun 09 19:54:06 <chocolove> trying to decide if I am going to commute into Broomfield or stay and work at home tomorrow.
Jun 09 19:54:10 <jen_B> Oh okay
Jun 09 19:54:14 <Meadow> some of us want camping banned for this season
Jun 09 19:54:39 <carpetgal> 19.2k acres burned
Jun 09 19:54:42 <Meadow> cool tjet!
Jun 09 19:54:56 <Meadow> what site pinecone?
Jun 09 19:55:01 <carpetgal> another big plume going up
Jun 09 19:55:05 <Q_n_Lav> we live 20 miles NE of Broomfield and are getting fairly heavy fallout
Jun 09 19:55:09 <pinecamguy> Chopper will be up at 6 am tomorrow. We will livestream.
Jun 09 19:55:11 <AC44> AOL not responding well....will try later PCG
Jun 09 19:55:14 <chuffman> pinecone calc 19200*43560/9
Jun 09 19:55:14 <pinecone> chuffman: 92928000.000000
Jun 09 19:55:21 <AC44> Thank you, maybe AOL will be good tomorrow
Jun 09 19:55:33 <tjet500> I'm for it. I go fishing with my kids every weekend and I Actively look for people with fires, god help them if I see one. Having an open fire out here now is like playing russian roulette with 5 chambers loadedj/
Jun 09 19:55:34 <Meadow> 19.2K acres where?
Jun 09 19:55:36 <carpetgal> aol is always slow on Sunday
Jun 09 19:55:41 <dancinbbear> need some help, where do i go to get help for chat room?
Jun 09 19:55:50 <jen_B> Where else can we go Camping ??/
Jun 09 19:55:52 <carpetgal> Hayman fire meadow
Jun 09 19:55:53 <AC44> They do seem to be don't they...CG
Jun 09 19:55:55 <Meadow> yep tjet sure is
Jun 09 19:55:57 <chocolove> Thanks Q, I'm just not sure whether or not to go that far away from home, kids and animals
Jun 09 19:56:11 <Meadow> the Hayman fire is 19,000 acres???
Jun 09 19:56:12 <ERS> hmm..
Jun 09 19:56:13 <Q_n_Lav> we can sure understand that
Jun 09 19:56:16 <chuffman> Galveston Island, Jen_B.
Jun 09 19:56:19 <carpetgal> yes
Jun 09 19:56:19 <pinecone> are you positive?
Jun 09 19:56:26 <Meadow> holy...
Jun 09 19:56:33 <Meadow> that thing has spread fast tonight
Jun 09 19:56:35 <Q_n_Lav> try Briggsdale, jen
Jun 09 19:56:46 <carpetgal> who is on Galveston Island
Jun 09 19:56:47 <Meadow> where'd you get those stats carpet?
Jun 09 19:57:01 <carpetgal> park county dispatch
Jun 09 19:57:03 <Meadow> it was just 4500 acres last time I heard
Jun 09 19:57:07 <Meadow> holy cow
Jun 09 19:57:09 <chuffman> Don't know but there isn't much fire danger with all that sand.
Jun 09 19:57:12 <jen_B> So you guy's dont wont me to go camping up here!!!.......

Jun 09 19:57:20 <AC44> Won't they have to do a flyover with infrareds to get a better idea CG?
Jun 09 19:57:25 <Meadow> jen thats right
Jun 09 19:57:27 <AC44> Tonight I mean
Jun 09 19:57:35 <chuffman> You catch on real quick, Jen_B.
Jun 09 19:57:40 <carpetgal> yes. won't really know till they do that AC.......

Jun 09 19:59:09 <tjet500> Hey, anyone who hasn't alreeady, consider sending pinecam a small donation, this is a great resource! Wayne I'm sending my check this week...
Jun 09 19:59:10 <AC44> With a flood on all night long!
Jun 09 19:59:13 <chocolove> raptr are you still on. I believe you are above me. I am on the south side of crow hill in Parkside.......

Jun 09 20:01:25 <Guest34160> hi does anyone have any current news about the fire?
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Jun 09 20:01:28 <chocolove> Well I suppose you can see a lot more than I can. Am trying to decide if I am going to commute into Broomfield tomorrow or stay and work at home. What do you think
Jun 09 20:01:36 <carpetgal> 1/4 mile from flying G
Jun 09 20:01:37 <Raptr> fire
Jun 09 20:01:37 <pinecone> The smoke you are seeing and smelling is from the Hayman Fire 6 miles NW of lake george. Please read this topic for real-time updates: http://www.pinecam.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=176
Jun 09 20:01:48 <robertz> which direction are the prevailing winds tonite?......

Jun 09 20:04:28 <RicardoGigante> so, it has shifted W/NW?
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Jun 09 20:04:42 <ERS> <test>
Jun 09 20:04:43 <Meadow> <--never been camping
Jun 09 20:04:47 <Raptr> to answer jen. I bet the ones in the nat forests will
Jun 09 20:04:48 <Meadow> <--moving to town
Jun 09 20:04:50 <jen_B> Meadow where do you see the Plume
Jun 09 20:05:00 <Meadow> jen I'm in Kings Valley...know it?
Jun 09 20:05:12 <Meadow> it's really bad
Jun 09 20:05:17 <tjet500> Yes....lived there during Buffalo creek
Jun 09 20:05:22 <carpetgal> that is a huge one meadow
Jun 09 20:05:23 <chocolove> yeah tjet that is what I am thinking. I guess I will see what is happening in the morning but I know if I go into the office I won't get much work done as I will probably be glued to Pinecam
Jun 09 20:05:25 <Meadow> the people in town (including my daughter) must be getting hit really hard
Jun 09 20:05:28 <Raptr> im gonna take a bath. See ya all later
Jun 09 20:05:32 <Meadow> sure is carpet
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Jun 09 20:05:41 <Meadow> yep cho
Jun 09 20:05:43 <jen_B> so am I
Jun 09 20:05:49 <Meadow> bye Rap
Jun 09 20:05:49 <pinecone> Promise you'll come back, okay?
Jun 09 20:05:58 <jen_B> just giving everybody a hard time about camping
Jun 09 20:06:01 <Meadow> holy smokes...this thing is huge
Jun 09 20:06:14 <kwille> Really huge.
Jun 09 20:06:20 <tjet500> I don't want to do highgrade like I did 4/24 ever again..18 minutes from chatfield to foxton and 285.....once was enough
Jun 09 20:06:20 <jen_B> meadow, you looking towards the fire?
Jun 09 20:06:26 <dancinbbear> yes it is.really big again
Jun 09 20:06:38 <chocolove> That is amazing tjet!!!
Jun 09 20:07:01 <carpetgal> yes it is huge. one of the biggest plumes yet and so late in the day.........

Thanks for posting that story, jf1acai. This makes my day. I love to respond to positive and helpful people and their postings. It is a privilege to know all of you who are so active in remembering your contributions as opposed to those who specialize in asinine comments whose only aim is to bait. Wait, I'm off topic. There are no such comments on this thread. Thank you all for sharing and though I hope we will not have another experience like that fires soon, I know to whom I will turn to make my contributions and with whom I want to work hand in hand.

Another article from the DSV archives:

"Do we stay, do we go or do I do what I can " by Sharon Heck



I first heard about the Hayman fire on the radio on a Sunday afternoon. The dj said that there was heavy smoke from out near Ken Caryl. I was concerned but as he clarified things, it sounded like it was quite a ways away and I didn’t think too much more about it. The next morning, driving in to work, I was hearing of potential evacuations in the Sedalia area and starting thinking of a coworker who lives in that area. I was sympathetic as we had been evacuated during the High Meadow fire and I knew how they must be feeling. During the day, I accessed a local website and chat room to find out what was going on. I was so thankful to have some real information as I knew from past experience when we were evacuated for Hi Meadow that the local news media did not provide the level of detail that those most impacted craved. I live in Conifer, however I work in the Tech Center so I wanted to know what was happening as quickly as possible. To add to this situation, my husband is a stay-at-home dad but he doesn’t drive and my daughter, the only other driver in the family, had recently married and was living in California.

I was glad that I was monitoring the chat room as that is where I first heard that my neighborhood was on the “be prepared to evacuate” list. As soon as I saw this notice in chat, I called home to find out why they hadn’t called me only to find out that my husband had been on the phone with his sister so we had not received the emergency alert notification call. I left work immediately and made my hour-long trip home. We started packing the items we wanted to take with us in the event of an evacuation and then we waited. We remained on the “prepare to evacuate” list for the remainder of Hayman, at least twice I was POSITIVE that we’d be receiving the dreaded call to evacuate at any minute. Thankfully, that call never came. I went in to work some days, however thanks to an understanding boss, I was able to stay home when the threat seemed close.

I was in the chat room A LOT and started to feel like I knew the “regulars”. I started seeing calls for assistance for the various fire departments nearby. I felt bad in that I couldn’t help much - I would have volunteered to drive some supplies to various locations but our vehicle was full of “stuff” in case we had to evacuate. Finally, I saw a call for laundry detergent etc and was able to stop and pick some up one of the days that I had gone in to work - I felt like I had helped at least a little. I was amazed at the dedication I saw of a few of the regulars in the chat room, they were in there posting information when I went to sleep and were in there (again or still?) when I got up in the morning. It was obvious that some of these dedicated volunteers were getting very little sleep! I started helping in small ways, relaying information that I had previously seen when new people would come in and ask a question that had been previously answered, etc. I attended a few of the briefings held at Conifer High School and relayed the information gathered for those who had not been able to attend.

I didn’t feel like I had done much but at least I had done what I could.

One final note, after my experience last year and getting involved with the group that created this site, I have now purchased a scanner. I am looking forward to being able to provide updates and helping to spread that workload a little bit so that our hard-working volunteers can get at least a little sleep during the upcoming fire season.

Sharon Heck (Shiloh_Lady)

Nice, JF, again, thank you for posting the stories.

I no longer live in the area, but having grown up near there and making it my home for 30 years, my heart is still and always will be there. I still have family (and friends from Grant to Morrison) that live along the corridor from Pine Jct. to Grant. So, my concern and love for the community is immense.

Since I am no longer there, I thought I would pass on a few things I learned to the next person(s) that will step up during the next disaster. Some of it I learned the hard way.... hahaha (like you are going to take a lot of grief if you take stuff to a dept that has been ordered to evacuate)

What I learned:

It takes days, during an emergency, for the government (LOCAL, STATE and FEDERAL) to get through the red-tape and take action. In the early days of any disaster, it is the local resources that are the only ones there to deal with it. This is the time when people can really step-up and help their little local dept. with needs. It is wise to call the chief and find out what they may need because too much stuff they have no need for can cripple limited space and create more problems for the dept. They may need a simple loan of $300 cash for gas for their trucks because to get funds from the main dept. can take a few days they don't have - such as, also, happened in Lake George.

Elk Creek Fire Station and the main Platte Canyon Station are very prepared and have alot of community support and a large group of volunteers, who are not firemen, that will stand up and cook meals, etc... such as the ladies auxiliary.

The smaller stations have very limited resources, limited equipment and far less people that are there to support the firemen.

Once FEMA takes over, everyone goes home and lets them do it. It can be frustrating for the men and women that have worked the disaster night and day to be completely shut-out, but that is the way it is.

HAM operators can be the heart of communications during a disaster when communications are shut-off. They are a vital part of the community and are always willing to step up and help. They are unsung heroes in any community and are highly and well trained. I found a call to the local head of the HAM operators was crucial in getting critical information. Jf and Shiloh-lady are now very involved with the HAMs, you are lucky to have them posting here.

A chat room is important where minute by minute information can be posted by people who are listening to their scanners and to answer questions - live - when someone pops in for up-to-date information is needed, IMO. Then someone needs to take the pertinent info and post it in a thread so people can have a log and read through it. A scanner TEAM is needed so the burden is not put on one or two people. Becky is pretty damn good at relaying scanner info. I nominate her to head the team!

Some of the agencies along the corridor, can help with the collection of funds but keep in mind that if you donate money to say, MRC specifically for a fire, they are limited to the county in which they work. Many of the disasters are going to cross county lines - other then trusting someone who is not a part of an agency to take your donations and trust they will do the right thing with the money, I don't have an answer to what to do about that problem. At one time DSV was taking steps to form a non-profit and be able to collect and distribute funds where ever it was needed. I am not sure if they are still looking at that direction or not. BUT! It needs to be addressed if DSV is not set up to do that.


OK, thanks for listening....

DSV is a 501(c)(3) non-profit in good standing

So, you can take donations and distribute them to those that need it, no matter what county? If so, that's great and that problem is solved!

Yes, we can.

Once again thanks for the information. Quick and decisive action is need when the chips are on the line. Having your experienced guidance here for us to use will facilitate matters when they count most. Thank you.