thoughts on the Trayvon murder

29 Mar 2012 12:06 #241 by pineinthegrass
BTW, where did the reports come from that Zimmerman weighs 250? Assuming he's actually 5'9" there is no way he could weigh 250 based on the video. He'd have to be seriously fat or on steroids with major muscles and I just don't see it in the video. Even at 200 there should be a big gut showing. He looks more like 160-170 to me.

Also why is everyone assuming there would be significant injuries? This wasn't a knife fight. Zimmerman said he was knocked down with a punch to the face. That may or may not of left any bruises on Martin's hand so I don't know what to expect from the coroner's report. We'll see if Zimmerman actually got a broken nose but what's the point? So far as claiming you are in fear of your life goes, there are no required minimum sustained injuries that I'm aware of.

We have eye witnesses who saw the two fighting and we can hear the screams for help on the 911 calls. At least one witness says it was Zimmerman calling for help (is there an eye witness who says the opposite?). Not that it proves who started the fight, but I'd think the person attacked would be more likely to call for help vs. the person who started it.

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29 Mar 2012 12:33 #242 by pineinthegrass
Now I see Zimmerman's friend says he's 5'8" and currently weighs 170...

Local 6: "What we are looking for here is for you to explain your relationship with George Zimmerman."

Oliver: "George is a friend of the family, his mother in law is close friend of my wife's."

Local 6: "Someone printed that your wife is his mother in law. That's clearly wrong?"

Oliver: "That's a perfect example of all the misinformation that is out there. Based upon his 2005 arrest, a mug shot says he weights 250 pounds and that doesn't say he is 5 feet, 8 inches and 170 pounds.

Oliver: "G is not a large man, he was back then, but not now."

Local 6: "You seem like you are defensive of his appearance."

Oliver: "It's not his appearance it is the information and the accuracy of everything that we have heard from the very beginning characterizing him as white, his size his weight."


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Friend-George-Zimmerman-scared-for-his-life/-/1637132/9722180/-/e55273z/-/index.html

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29 Mar 2012 12:37 #243 by Reverend Revelant

pineinthegrass wrote: BTW, where did the reports come from that Zimmerman weighs 250? Assuming he's actually 5'9" there is no way he could weigh 250 based on the video. He'd have to be seriously fat or on steroids with major muscles and I just don't see it in the video. Even at 200 there should be a big gut showing. He looks more like 160-170 to me.

Also why is everyone assuming there would be significant injuries? This wasn't a knife fight. Zimmerman said he was knocked down with a punch to the face. That may or may not of left any bruises on Martin's hand so I don't know what to expect from the coroner's report. We'll see if Zimmerman actually got a broken nose but what's the point? So far as claiming you are in fear of your life goes, there are no required minimum sustained injuries that I'm aware of.

We have eye witnesses who saw the two fighting and we can hear the screams for help on the 911 calls. At least one witness says it was Zimmerman calling for help (is there an eye witness who says the opposite?). Not that it proves who started the fight, but I'd think the person attacked would be more likely to call for help vs. the person who started it.


I said it before... it doesn't matter if Zimmerman is 100% guilty, the other crime here is the race-baiters and political opportunist on the left who jumped all over this before they even knew that Zimmerman was a "white Hispanic." They heard that name and figured they had a double whammy... sh*t... a Jew and a racist, perfect fodder for the left to help bolster their losing credibility in this country.

It all started to unravel. As I said earlier...

None of these facts makes Zimmerman any more or less guilty of a possible crime. He may have overreacted, he may be in the least guilty of manslaughter and Trayvon death is tragic no matter how you look at it. And Zimmerman is going to have to live with this the rest of his life. The laws of Florida that allows this kind of self defense may have to be reconsidered. But try as they may, the left is loosing the manufactured narrative on this incident. It’s not working out for them in the least and the race-baiters on the left have been very silent.

Maybe they have shut their divisive mouths for a while and we can get along with examining the real issues, such as black on black murders, true intentional racism and real racial violence and the true intentions of race-baiting politics.


They thought for a moment that they had found another nugget to advance their cause, the stolen video footage from the Sandford Police Department. But even then, if they looked before they leaped, you can see an injury on the back of Zimmerman's head. Once again, the race-baiters and Alinsky activists find they don't have a nugget... just some fools gold.

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29 Mar 2012 12:57 #244 by Reverend Revelant
Here's another one of the race-baiting leftist.

Roseanne Barr Joins Twitter Vigilante Crew - Star tweeted home address of George Zimmerman's parents

MARCH 29--The comedian Roseanne Barr last night tweeted the home address of George Zimmerman’s parents to her 110,000-plus Twitter followers, only to delete the posting after “not fully understanding that it was private not public.”... But while Barr deleted her original posting, the Zimmermans’s address remains in messages in her Twitter stream. Barr’s original tweet was a retweet of a post by a new Twitter user who appears devoted to disseminating the Zimmermans’s address and phone number, as well as contact information for Joseph Oliver, who has made numerous TV appearances in support of Zimmerman, a friend and former coworker.

Still, the entertainer left open the possibility that she would again circulate the Seminole County address of Zimmerman’s parents. “If Zimmerman isn’t arrested I’ll rt his address again.” She added, “maybe go 2 his house myself.”

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/ ... ets-893416


If you didn't know better.... you would think this was a stunt that would be right at home in a socialist or communist country. Chairman Mao would have been so proud.

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29 Mar 2012 13:04 #245 by JSG
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Yeah, cause communists are really big on allowing Twitter in their countries.

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29 Mar 2012 13:12 #246 by Reverend Revelant

JSG wrote: Yeah, cause communists are really big on allowing Twitter in their countries.


You know something... you bring obtuse to a whole new level... congrats.

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29 Mar 2012 13:20 #247 by JSG
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Sorry, I can't respond. I'm busy retweeting Zimmerman's parent's address (I guess he lives with his parents).

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29 Mar 2012 13:21 #248 by Photo-fish

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote: They heard that name and figured they had a double whammy... sh*t... a Jew and a racist, perfect fodder for the left to help bolster their losing credibility in this country.


Do you have a source for this anti-semetic angle or is it something that fell out your butt?

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29 Mar 2012 13:24 #249 by Reverend Revelant

Photo-fish wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote: They heard that name and figured they had a double whammy... sh*t... a Jew and a racist, perfect fodder for the left to help bolster their losing credibility in this country.


Do you have a source for this anti-semetic angle or is it something that fell out your butt?


Here... put this in your butt...

In the wake of the horrific murder of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin by Jewish terrorist George Zimmerman, it is critically important that we all recognize that not every Jew is a cold-blooded murderous terrorist like Zimmerman.

We cannot repeat too often that Judaism is a religion of peace. Yes, there are a small number of Jewish extremists out there who support child-murdering terrorist organizations like the State of Israel; who shoot innocent black kids down in cold blood; who call for the murder of the President of the United States; and so on and so forth.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/03/23 ... -all-jews/


And I don't care if it's right or left... I don't care for anti-semitism from any stripe. Your Google-Fu evidently is broken.

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29 Mar 2012 13:27 #250 by Reverend Revelant

Photo-fish wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote: They heard that name and figured they had a double whammy... sh*t... a Jew and a racist, perfect fodder for the left to help bolster their losing credibility in this country.


Do you have a source for this anti-semetic angle or is it something that fell out your butt?


Put this in your pipe...

George Zimmerman's father is a German Jew?
George Zimmerman the man who murdered the black teenager is half Jewish. His mom is a Latino but his father is a German Jew. Many African-American people including the Black Panthers party feel like the reason he wasn't charged is because of his father....
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Yes his father is a German Jew. His mother is Peruvian. He's not being arrested because the sheriff's department doesn't care and because this happened in Florida. Florida has had Latino/Black tension up the wazoo for years. I've spoken to a few people who live in Florida about this case and they're telling me that lots of Latinos are already condemning Martin and blaming him for his own murder. Blacks want zimmermans head. Expect this to get ugly for Florida. Florida is a steaming ball of hate when it comes to racism. In Florida Whites hate everyone, Blacks don't like Hispanics and are always weary of Whites, and Hispanics talk ish about Whites and are disgusted by Blacks. Trust me... you don't want to be there if Zimmerman is acquitted a year from now.
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http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 411AALqrn1


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