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A new Board? Any interest?
17 Jan 2013 01:30 #179
by ScienceChic
Feel free to keep going down the list of all 150 top posters and count who's actually left, never to return. What's your cut-off for how long they've been gone? A week? A month? A year?
Considering that some of those who have left could hardly be accused of "respectful conversation" themselves when they posted here, what is your criteria for deciding who "prefers respectful conversation"?
How do you know they aren't just busy with their lives (as I actually know a few personally are, and one that's moved out of state in that group), not that they've deliberately left because of how they were treated or felt about this forum and/or site?
If someone leaves and returns as an alternate nic, does that count as them really being gone? Do you know which ones have alternate nics so you can accurately count them frogger?
Do you know exactly how many have asked to be deactivated, and what their post count was before they were removed from this list so you can add them in if they would've been in the top 150 otherwise?
Do you know who still lurks but prefers not to post anymore, or does lurking count as "hitting the road"?
I will say this again, if you are basing your opinion of this entire business on this one forum then you are completely biased about what this business is about, what it provides, and how it is perceived by the rest of the community. Businesses are not leaving like you claim they are, and while I am sure that there are some that won't participate here, hearing it second-hand from a disgruntled member is hardly credible or reliable information to base an opinion on. Viewership is up based on Google analytics hard data, not subjective impressions, and people come and go all the time, it's the nature of forums and life. If you want it to improve, start with yourself. Post elsewhere on the site. Put irritating posters on Ignore/Foe, and if you refuse to and keep engaging them, then it's your own fault so think twice about how hypocritical it is to complain about how "nasty" this site is when you contribute to the problem. Calling other members out on their behavior doesn't work (see this thread for what does) , nor does harassing them for sources. If they don't want to provide sources, then their claims have little merit, and you can move right along - there's no need to bash them for it, you just don't have to be convinced by their arguments, simple as that. If you want your arguments to have more merit, provide sources (and be prepared to defend the quality of those sources), but you certainly aren't required to do so unless you directly quote from them - that's Fair Use Guidelines, not good debating technique...there's a difference.
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
Replied by ScienceChic on topic A new Board? Any interest?
Really? Care to re-count that, or would you rather keep throwing out assumptions and generalizations based on your own anecdotal and defaming "evidence"?frogger wrote: those that prefer a respectful conversation have left. lookslike maybe 75 of the top 150 posters have hit the road. do appreciate seeing more moved to the ring. its a start.
Feel free to keep going down the list of all 150 top posters and count who's actually left, never to return. What's your cut-off for how long they've been gone? A week? A month? A year?
Considering that some of those who have left could hardly be accused of "respectful conversation" themselves when they posted here, what is your criteria for deciding who "prefers respectful conversation"?
How do you know they aren't just busy with their lives (as I actually know a few personally are, and one that's moved out of state in that group), not that they've deliberately left because of how they were treated or felt about this forum and/or site?
If someone leaves and returns as an alternate nic, does that count as them really being gone? Do you know which ones have alternate nics so you can accurately count them frogger?
Do you know exactly how many have asked to be deactivated, and what their post count was before they were removed from this list so you can add them in if they would've been in the top 150 otherwise?
Do you know who still lurks but prefers not to post anymore, or does lurking count as "hitting the road"?
I will say this again, if you are basing your opinion of this entire business on this one forum then you are completely biased about what this business is about, what it provides, and how it is perceived by the rest of the community. Businesses are not leaving like you claim they are, and while I am sure that there are some that won't participate here, hearing it second-hand from a disgruntled member is hardly credible or reliable information to base an opinion on. Viewership is up based on Google analytics hard data, not subjective impressions, and people come and go all the time, it's the nature of forums and life. If you want it to improve, start with yourself. Post elsewhere on the site. Put irritating posters on Ignore/Foe, and if you refuse to and keep engaging them, then it's your own fault so think twice about how hypocritical it is to complain about how "nasty" this site is when you contribute to the problem. Calling other members out on their behavior doesn't work (see this thread for what does) , nor does harassing them for sources. If they don't want to provide sources, then their claims have little merit, and you can move right along - there's no need to bash them for it, you just don't have to be convinced by their arguments, simple as that. If you want your arguments to have more merit, provide sources (and be prepared to defend the quality of those sources), but you certainly aren't required to do so unless you directly quote from them - that's Fair Use Guidelines, not good debating technique...there's a difference.
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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