What Would End The Protests?

22 Nov 2014 16:00 #41 by homeagain
Perhaps remembering the turbulent sixties might put this in perspective....Image this....PEACEFUL but
determined blacks being knocked down and blown away by powerful fire hoses.....

Here's the part I don't understand...white young boys/men entering schools and murdering students, teachers.

It's the "whites" that are perpetuating the violence upon society...look at the profiles of these young men
they are NOT black...so for EVERY cited violence against society you could argue the "uprising"is colorblind. JMO

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22 Nov 2014 17:08 #42 by homeagain
www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/...rest-rates/19043207/

Long article....worth the read IF you are open to the REAL problem.

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23 Nov 2014 09:38 #43 by Rick
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homeagain wrote: Perhaps remembering the turbulent sixties might put this in perspective....Image this....PEACEFUL but
determined blacks being knocked down and blown away by powerful fire hoses.....

Here's the part I don't understand...white young boys/men entering schools and murdering students, teachers.

It's the "whites" that are perpetuating the violence upon society...look at the profiles of these young men
they are NOT black...so for EVERY cited violence against society you could argue the "uprising"is colorblind. JMO

Not sure how to address this post because it's all over the place. The statement I challenged was your point about racial profiling being the "real" issue. What is your evidence that racial profiling was a factor HERE? I'd also like to know how a relatively small number of school shooters has anything to do with the real threat to young black men, which happens to be young black men.

This case should be about evidence in THIS CASE. At some point in our society, we need to stop using past wrongs to justify current violence. This racial division has gotten much worse since our black president and black AG decided to take racial sides in many local cases.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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23 Nov 2014 09:50 #44 by HEARTLESS

homeagain wrote: The REAL issue is the ONGOING profiling/racial divide/racism/ "white vs. black" experience in America.

The MOST appalling aspect of this incident (reserving judgement on the officer/victim) was this.....
the boys' earthly body was splayed out on the pavement for HOURS, WITHOUT a cover/privacy
shield.

Let me bring that into SHARPER focus....it was Mid-August in Missouri.
If this were YOUR CHILD, would that be acceptable to you? YOUR child's body in the middle of
a paved road (UNCOVERED, for all to see) for HOURS...blood pooling around the body and drying on
hot pavement....

On any fatality, no matter the cause, the scene will remain unaltered to protect evidence during the investigation. Gore curious onlookers can't always be moved far enough away and there is always journalists wanting to sell more ad space through graphic photos.
Look at any accident and note the slow down for gore seeking onlookers that can offer no help.

The silent majority will be silent no more.

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23 Nov 2014 09:50 #45 by ZHawke
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Rick wrote: Not sure how to address this post because it's all over the place. The statement I challenged was your point about racial profiling being the "real" issue. What is your evidence that racial profiling was a factor HERE? I'd also like to know how a relatively small number of school shooters has anything to do with the real threat to young black men, which happens to be young black men.

This case should be about evidence in THIS CASE. At some point in our society, we need to stop using past wrongs to justify current violence. This racial division has gotten much worse since our black president and black AG decided to take racial sides in many local cases.


You had me until your very last sentence. I agree, this case should, in fact, be determined on evidence, not conjecture, not juries of public opinion. Then you say the racial divisions have gotten much worse because of the president and the AG? Do you have factual evidence to back up that claim?

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23 Nov 2014 09:53 #46 by HEARTLESS
Now a question to all that believe there is a race issue involved. Would you only have race similar law enforcement respond to calls in predominantly one race areas?

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23 Nov 2014 09:57 #47 by ZHawke
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HEARTLESS wrote: Now a question to all that believe there is a race issue involved. Would you only have race similar law enforcement respond to calls in predominantly one race areas?


Do you expect a simple "yes" or "no", "up" or "down" response to this question?

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23 Nov 2014 09:57 #48 by HEARTLESS

ZHawke wrote:

Rick wrote: Not sure how to address this post because it's all over the place. The statement I challenged was your point about racial profiling being the "real" issue. What is your evidence that racial profiling was a factor HERE? I'd also like to know how a relatively small number of school shooters has anything to do with the real threat to young black men, which happens to be young black men.

This case should be about evidence in THIS CASE. At some point in our society, we need to stop using past wrongs to justify current violence. This racial division has gotten much worse since our black president and black AG decided to take racial sides in many local cases.


You had me until your very last sentence. I agree, this case should, in fact, be determined on evidence, not conjecture, not juries of public opinion. Then you say the racial divisions have gotten much worse because of the president and the AG? Do you have factual evidence to back up that claim?

Watch video early after the Zimmerman/Martin shooting and the Wilson/Brown shooting. If you can't hear the racial slant of Odumbo and toilet paper Holder, you aren't conscious or honest.

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23 Nov 2014 09:59 #49 by HEARTLESS

ZHawke wrote:

HEARTLESS wrote: Now a question to all that believe there is a race issue involved. Would you only have race similar law enforcement respond to calls in predominantly one race areas?


Do you expect a simple "yes" or "no", "up" or "down" response to this question?

Only from someone other than the "lets discuss everything like a book club with no personal opinion posters."

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23 Nov 2014 09:59 #50 by Blazer Bob
Let's put the blame where it belongs. It is the NRA and other conservatives fault.

www.politicalresearch.org/2014/06/19/mas...-gender-and-a-race/#

"Recent studies reveal that most school shooters are White males, with 97 percent being male and 79 percent White. Over the last three decades, 90 percent of high school or elementary school shootings were the result of White, often upper-middle class, perpetrators. These shootings are a direct reflection of White male privilege and the consequences that occur when groups like the NRA control influential conservative leaders."

If we draw conclusions from the 90% white male statistic are there any conclusions to be drawn from the racial make up of our prison population?


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States

White Americans are the racial majority, with a 77.7% share of the U.S. population, according to the 2013 U.S. Census. Hispanic and Latino Americans amount to 17.1% of the population, making up the largest minority. African Americans are the largest racial minority, amounting to 13.2% of the population. The White, non-Hispanic or Latino population make up 62.6% of the nation's total.[6]

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