What Would End The Protests?

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HEARTLESS wrote:

ZHawke wrote:

HEARTLESS wrote:

ZHawke wrote:

HEARTLESS wrote:

ZHawke wrote:

HEARTLESS wrote: Watch video early after the Zimmerman/Martin shooting and the Wilson/Brown shooting. If you can't hear the racial slant of Odumbo and toilet paper Holder, you aren't conscious or honest.

I thought this thread was about THIS case.

As always, don't answer any questions that you can't hide behind someone else's link, just evade, deny, and on and on.

Boo freakin' hoo! You didn't ask a question here. You made a statement.

The question was before and still no answer.

Yes, there is a race issue here, but not from your perspective, in my opinion. No, the demographic makeup of a community should help in determining the racial makeup of public service agencies, not in having one specific racial/ethnic group respond to all incidents occurring in areas similar.

Better?

In answer to "better?" No.
Laws are written to encompass all, regardless of race, otherwise to law itself is discriminatory. Those that enforce those laws must show knowledge and ability to do so. How then do we deal with mixed racial areas, only mixed officers?

Please note I said "should help" (emphasis mine).

PrintSmith wrote: It's an answer at least, that's a start.

The problem with the answer is that it perpetuates judging on skin color rather than establishing merit based employment as the basis upon which public sector employees are hired. The government is not allowed to discriminate based on race. That is the substance of the 14th Amendment and the civil rights laws. Hiring one person over another because of their skin color, even if done to "bring balance", violates the prohibition on discriminating, in other words differentiating, on the basis of race.

Government is required to be color blind in regards to all of their actions. They are not allowed to favor one race over another for any reason in their actions. The sooner we accept that fundamental truth, the better off we will all be.

Well said, I'll now go elsewhere to pleasure Z to no end.

I'm still waiting for even the smallest bit of evidence that this had anything to do with racial profiling or racism. Maybe the grand jury has seen such evidence, but to just assume it is there because it's a white cop who shot a black man, is in itself a racist accusation... is it not?

Remember how that news network (forgot which one), edited the 911 tape of Zimmerman saying he thought Trayvon was black? They edited out the operator asking what color he was and made it look like Zimmerman was profiling. This rush to find racism around every corner is very harmful to an already divided country. When the media, the AG, and even the president does it, how will we ever come together?

HEARTLESS wrote:

homeagain wrote: The REAL issue is the ONGOING profiling/racial divide/racism/ "white vs. black" experience in America.

The MOST appalling aspect of this incident (reserving judgement on the officer/victim) was this.....
the boys' earthly body was splayed out on the pavement for HOURS, WITHOUT a cover/privacy
shield.

Let me bring that into SHARPER focus....it was Mid-August in Missouri.
If this were YOUR CHILD, would that be acceptable to you? YOUR child's body in the middle of
a paved road (UNCOVERED, for all to see) for HOURS...blood pooling around the body and drying on
hot pavement....

On any fatality, no matter the cause, the scene will remain unaltered to protect evidence during the investigation. Gore curious onlookers can't always be moved far enough away and there is always journalists wanting to sell more ad space through graphic photos.
Look at any accident and note the slow down for gore seeking onlookers that can offer no help.

The bolded...YES,you are correct.HOWEVER a privacy screen/shield is erected around the body...per police official and they admitted that was NOT done...check the facts. The inaction/disrespect was the appalling aspect.

Rick wrote:

homeagain wrote: Perhaps remembering the turbulent sixties might put this in perspective....Image this....PEACEFUL but
determined blacks being knocked down and blown away by powerful fire hoses.....

Here's the part I don't understand...white young boys/men entering schools and murdering students, teachers.

It's the "whites" that are perpetuating the violence upon society...look at the profiles of these young men
they are NOT black...so for EVERY cited violence against society you could argue the "uprising"is colorblind. JMO

Not sure how to address this post because it's all over the place. The statement I challenged was your point about racial profiling being the "real" issue. What is your evidence that racial profiling was a factor HERE? I'd also like to know how a relatively small number of school shooters has anything to do with the real threat to young black men, which happens to be young black men.

This case should be about evidence in THIS CASE. At some point in our society, we need to stop using past wrongs to justify current violence. This racial division has gotten much worse since our black president and black AG decided to take racial sides in many local cases.

I do NOT know what would make it clearer to you....the violence in today's society is COLORBLINDED...whites are slaughtering grade school children and high schoolers, AND their teachers....
THAT fact is puzzling...."whites" have privilege. Blacks are being profiled in extraordinary degrees...
YET we still can not get a handle on the white kid who will opt to "mow down" co students/teachers just
because he is "pissed"....

homeagain wrote:

Rick wrote:

homeagain wrote: Perhaps remembering the turbulent sixties might put this in perspective....Image this....PEACEFUL but
determined blacks being knocked down and blown away by powerful fire hoses.....

Here's the part I don't understand...white young boys/men entering schools and murdering students, teachers.

It's the "whites" that are perpetuating the violence upon society...look at the profiles of these young men
they are NOT black...so for EVERY cited violence against society you could argue the "uprising"is colorblind. JMO

Not sure how to address this post because it's all over the place. The statement I challenged was your point about racial profiling being the "real" issue. What is your evidence that racial profiling was a factor HERE? I'd also like to know how a relatively small number of school shooters has anything to do with the real threat to young black men, which happens to be young black men.

This case should be about evidence in THIS CASE. At some point in our society, we need to stop using past wrongs to justify current violence. This racial division has gotten much worse since our black president and black AG decided to take racial sides in many local cases.

I do NOT know what would make it clearer to you....the violence in today's society is COLORBLINDED...whites are slaughtering grade school children and high schoolers, AND their teachers....
THAT fact is puzzling...."whites" have privilege. Blacks are being profiled in extraordinary degrees...
YET we still can not get a handle on the white kid who will opt to "mow down" co students/teachers just
because he is "pissed"....

Do you the total number of young white males who have murdered people in schools? How many of these young white males had mental issues and how many killed because they were "privileged"... there are few enough that these facts would be helpful to know. Do you have any facts that show how many young blacks have been killed due to profiling compared to how many have been killed by their peers of the same color?

I think a little perspective in numbers would be helpful.

Since one of the contentions in this thread is that human life is valuable and any loss of life is a tragedy worthy of national news every time it happens I'll add this link:

[url]=http://heyjackass.com/category/2014-chicago-crime-murder-stats[/url]

Is Chicago exempt from MSM coverage? Where's the outrage? Why are so many shootings, gun related injuries, and murders not being reported on a national level? One black male allegedly attacks a policeman and is killed in the process and it's significant enough to be a topic of local and national news for weeks. Why isn't the same true for the multitude of people in Chicago?

homeagain, it shouldn't be a numbers game, too many of our young are dying for too many reasons. If you take the murders in Chicago, Washington DC and Detroit this year alone it probably exceeds all school related shootings ever, but that is just numbers. This problem has been growing for years and doesn't have one easy answer or fix. With over 7 billion people worldwide, each of us means less and less it seems. It isn't a matter of hunger, money, or whatever only. It may be somewhat about space (room to live and be lonely at times) to appreciate people. We have become a want it all right now world, not just the western world. Most of our communication is electronic, though convenient it is cold and impersonal. We are circling the drain and people are growing more desperate.

HEARTLESS wrote: homeagain, it shouldn't be a numbers game, too many of our young are dying for too many reasons. If you take the murders in Chicago, Washington DC and Detroit this year alone it probably exceeds all school related shootings ever, but that is just numbers. This problem has been growing for years and doesn't have one easy answer or fix. With over 7 billion people worldwide, each of us means less and less it seems. It isn't a matter of hunger, money, or whatever only. It may be somewhat about space (room to live and be lonely at times) to appreciate people. We have become a want it all right now world, not just the western world. Most of our communication is electronic, though convenient it is cold and impersonal. We are circling the drain and people are growing more desperate.[/quote]

And I believe, it is REQUIRED to change...it starts with EACH individual....introspection/reflection are words that MUST return to our vocabulary. JMO