Impeachment proceedings against Trump

27 Oct 2017 22:21 #51 by ScienceChic
The prevailing chatter on Twitter is that it will be Manafort who is to be charged first.

Federal Prosecutors Issue Subpoenas in Manafort Laundering Probe
By Christian Berthelsen and Erik Larson
October 24, 2017, 10:36 PM CDT

Federal prosecutors in New York have issued subpoenas as part of an investigation into whether former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort used New York real estate transactions to launder foreign money into the U.S. financial system, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The investigation was launched by the U.S. Attorney in Manhattan and subsequently handed off to Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is probing Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. The issuance of the subpoenas in recent weeks by the Manhattan prosecutor indicates that the office has rejoined the inquiry and moved beyond the initial stage.

At least three law-enforcement offices are now investigating Manafort’s transactions. New York At­tor­ney Gen­eral Eric Schneiderman­ is also probing potential money laundering by Manafort.


A Timeline: Everything We Know About Paul Manafort’s Ties to Russia
A look at the business dealings, influence and federal investigation into Trump's former campaign manager.
By Steven Harper | October 26, 2017

Former Trump Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort Faces Another Money-Laundering Probe
By Erica Orden and Nicole Hong
Oct. 24, 2017 7:35 p.m. ET

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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28 Oct 2017 07:41 #52 by ramage
From Fox News Insider 10/28/2017 :


A thus-far-reliable source who used to be involved with Clinton allies John and Tony Podesta told Tucker Carlson that press reports appearing to implicate President Trump in Russian collusion are exaggerated.

The source, who Carlson said he would not yet name, said he worked for the brothers' Podesta Group and was privy to some information from Robert Mueller's special investigation.

While media reports describe former "Black, Manafort & Stone" principal Paul Manafort as Trump's main tie to the investigation, the source said it is Manafort's role as a liaison between Russia and the Podesta Group that is drawing the scrutiny.

The "vehicle" Manafort worked for was what Carlson called a "sham" company with a headquarters listed in Belgium but whose contact information was linked to Kiev, the Ukrainian capital.

Manafort was, at the time, representing Russian business and political interests during the Obama era.

The source said the Podesta Group was in regular contact with Manafort while Hillary Clinton was America's chief diplomat.

In 2013, the group hired away one of Clinton's deputies, David Adams, effectively establishing contact between the Washington firm and Clinton's office in Foggy Bottom, D.C.

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29 Oct 2017 13:38 #53 by Rick
I'm afraid the liberals who are suffering from TDS will be greatly disappointed when nothing in this stupid investigation leads to Trump's impeachment, but I guess everyone is allowed to dream. All this was started because of the fake dossier funded by the Clinton campaign (of course, everybody is lying about knowing anything about it). If the FBI used this BS to wiretap Trump tower....

On the other hand, it looks like the Clintons and a bunch of other Dem criminals may need to lawyer up soon., including Muller. Lots of good stuff coming out that the worthless media wants to ignore... should be fun to watch!

It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy

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29 Oct 2017 21:56 - 29 Oct 2017 22:02 #54 by ScienceChic
:biggrin: Nope, all this started when Trump fired Comey and Special Counsel Robert Mueller was hired (to bipartisan approval, I would add - even Newt Gingrich sung his praises) to investigate charges of obstruction of justice and allegations of Trump's campaign colluding with Russian agents to interfere with the election (Comey's investigation), among with pretty much anything relating to that.

That "fake" dossier was initially paid for by Republicans who were digging up dirt on their fellow Republican candidate rival. The Dems took over paying for it when Trump won the nomination and the Republican contenders had no use for it to continue, and then allegedly Steele finished it up pro bono because of the seriousness of the intel he discovered. Parts of it have been corroborated in Senate hearings, so if any of it ends up bringing Trump down, ironically, it will be a truly bipartisan effort.

The FBI didn't wiretap Trump Tower, they hot miked both Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak's and former FBI Director Comey's phones (the former unknowingly, the latter at his request) and other intelligence agencies reportedly had Carter Page and Paul Manafort's phones hot miked. And the reason I tend to believe the info in these articles is because Trump himself Tweeted about being "wiretapped" - a classified operation that he complained about publicly when he learned of it.

I honestly doubt it'll get to his impeachment, he'll resign before that is officially voted upon. I have to hand it to Mueller - dropping the bomb (to the most distrusted network by conservatives, no less) on a Friday night that charges were filed and someone would be arrested come Monday morning was bloody brilliant - can you imagine the intel he got this weekend as people freaked? You know there were phone calls and emails flying. Roger Stone flipped out so bad Twitter actually suspended (or permanently banned, depending upon whom you trust) his account, and that's saying something with the sh*t they let accounts get away with.

As to anything happening with Hillary and Mueller: ask yourself why all of a sudden the Republicans were bringing her and this 7 year old transaction up?

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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30 Oct 2017 01:54 #55 by ScienceChic
There's now speculation that those arrested starting today could be multiple suspects.

Andrew C Laufer, Esq (@lauferlaw)
10/29/17, 6:17 PM
Regarding tomorrow’s indictment unsealing. Mueller seems to be treating this not like a white collar arrest /1

where you may have the FBI coordinate surrendering of a defendant to authorities, but more like a Mafia family or criminal syndicate /2

take down. Keeping indictments sealed and not tipping his hand is why I believe we’re in for some shock and awe tomorrow and the /3

and the following days. This may very well be an international effort. Arrests maybe world-wide. One thing is for certain /4

is that once Mueller moves many are going down, even ppl you may not have expected. Some will likely be getting 6 am walkup calls. /end

Who are some of the people under investigation?
Exclusive: Mueller Has ‘Dozens’ of Sealed Indictments, Including On Donald Trump

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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30 Oct 2017 07:01 #56 by driver8
So Manafort and Rick Gates, so far. It amazes me that web of alternate truths that have been spun by Fox and brietbart over the last few days. There must of been other indications the charges were coming and the distraction machine went into full power mode. Of course they went for the clinton lever since trumps hard core 32%, his base, hate the woman with more passion than they love their own spouses and families. This was not TDS, this is the backlash of PDS and CDS on the people most easily controlled by the propaganda wing of the trump party (no longer the republican party).

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30 Oct 2017 11:39 #57 by ScienceChic
Oh, absolutely they tried to use Clinton as a distraction. The Uranium One story was 7 years old and not a scandal but at this point just saying that name elicits an emotional, non-rational response and serves as an ill-disguised distraction from what was about to come down on them. Manafort was told months ago that he was under indictment, and had a pre-dawn, no-knock raid at his residence to gather evidence.

However, it's just the tip of the iceberg: George Papadopoulos plead guilty earlier this month and has been cooperating with Mueller's investigation.
Molly McKew‏ Verified account @MollyMcKew
So. This is actually the big Russia news today. www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download

Former Trump Adviser Admits To Seeking 'Dirt' On Clinton From Russians, Lying To FBI
October 30, 201711:28 AM ET

George Papadopoulos, who worked for President Trump's campaign as a foreign policy adviser, has pleaded guilty to lying to FBI agents about meeting a professor with Russian ties who had promised to provide "dirt" on Trump's Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton.

Papadopoulos, 30, pleaded guilty on Oct. 5, in an agreement that is only being unsealed on Monday after Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort was taken into federal custody, indicted along with his top deputy on charges that range from conspiracy against the United States to conspiracy to launder money.

The guilty plea and accompanying court documents provide evidence of the earliest connection so far between Trump campaign officials and individuals close to the Russian government who were seeking to influence the election. It's also the first official account of those ties to be provided by Mueller's investigative team.


"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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30 Oct 2017 14:45 #58 by Rick
Keep dreaming, hoping, praying, obsessing....

It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy

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30 Oct 2017 19:44 - 30 Oct 2017 19:44 #59 by Rick
I wonder why Tony Podesta stepped down today...hmmm

It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy

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01 Nov 2017 12:08 #60 by FredHayek

Rick wrote: I wonder why Tony Podesta stepped down today...hmmm

Yes, the innocent usually keep their jobs, especially when they founded the company.

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