2020 Presidential Candidates

27 Feb 2020 13:31 #391 by homeagain

Pony Soldier wrote:

homeagain wrote:

Blazer Bob wrote: Who's more racist ?

Joe Biden: “I’ve been involved in the African American community my whole life, my first job was as a public defender”

Bernie Sanders: "“And I’ll tell you what else we’re going to do, we’re going to provide help to the African-American, Latino, Native American community to start businesses to sell legal marijuana"


www.politico.com/news/2020/02/26/jim-cly...ses-joe-biden-117667

Guess that tops off the topic.....Biden bonds with THE leader of people of color.....WATCH WHAT HAPPENS




Excuse me? The leader of people of color?? WTF??

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fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-south-c...-is-endorsing-biden/

LONG video ....about 30 min.....BUT, if you watch you will KNOW why the last bolded is
true.....REALITY VS. RHETORIC he is straight up and calls it.....impressive 1/2 hr.:Ivoted:

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28 Feb 2020 06:50 #392 by Rick
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homeagain wrote:

Pony Soldier wrote:

homeagain wrote:

Blazer Bob wrote: Who's more racist ?

Joe Biden: “I’ve been involved in the African American community my whole life, my first job was as a public defender”

Bernie Sanders: "“And I’ll tell you what else we’re going to do, we’re going to provide help to the African-American, Latino, Native American community to start businesses to sell legal marijuana"


www.politico.com/news/2020/02/26/jim-cly...ses-joe-biden-117667

Guess that tops off the topic.....Biden bonds with THE leader of people of color.....WATCH WHAT HAPPENS




Excuse me? The leader of people of color?? WTF??

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fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-south-c...-is-endorsing-biden/

LONG video ....about 30 min.....BUT, if you watch you will KNOW why the last bolded is
true.....REALITY VS. RHETORIC he is straight up and calls it.....impressive 1/2 hr.:Ivoted:

Rather than forcing us to waste 30 minutes of our lives, why not summarize what you learned while while burning 30 minutes of your life? Who is this "leader of people of color"? I'd also like to know if the "leader" includes other colors or just one.

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28 Feb 2020 07:13 #393 by homeagain
I guess it is a matter of perspective......watching the debates,at this EARLY stage of the game,to me was a waste of time. Since THE BLACK VOTE is the big unknown and figures heavily in this
election 1/2hr of my time to UNDERSTAND the factor,seemed like a really EXCELLENT idea.....if
your decision is, it is too time consuming,that is YOUR pov.....SORRY that time constraints are
that tight....because what you WOULD have viewed was a concentrated and cohesive interview
with a person of color....thoughtful,direct,well spoken and HONEST....without drama. YOUR LOSS.....

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28 Feb 2020 08:19 #394 by Pony Soldier

homeagain wrote:

Pony Soldier wrote:

homeagain wrote:

Blazer Bob wrote: Who's more racist ?

Joe Biden: “I’ve been involved in the African American community my whole life, my first job was as a public defender”

Bernie Sanders: "“And I’ll tell you what else we’re going to do, we’re going to provide help to the African-American, Latino, Native American community to start businesses to sell legal marijuana"


www.politico.com/news/2020/02/26/jim-cly...ses-joe-biden-117667

Guess that tops off the topic.....Biden bonds with THE leader of people of color.....WATCH WHAT HAPPENS




Excuse me? The leader of people of color?? WTF??

[/b]

fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-south-c...-is-endorsing-biden/

LONG video ....about 30 min.....BUT, if you watch you will KNOW why the last bolded is
true.....REALITY VS. RHETORIC he is straight up and calls it.....impressive 1/2 hr.:Ivoted:


It sounded as if you were saying he was leader of all people of color. He’s not and people of color are not some unthinking bloc of voters. You will see that in the upcoming election. I would venture that Senator Scott is at least as respected as Congressman Clyburn.

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28 Feb 2020 08:23 #395 by ScienceChic

Rick wrote:

Blazer Bob wrote: Who's more racist ?

Joe Biden: “I’ve been involved in the African American community my whole life, my first job was as a public defender”

LOL!! The problem is the left can't see the racism in those remarks. African Americans are getting a very clear picture of how these people have used them for decades.

I must not be getting it, can you explain to me how that statement is racist?

Here's the thing I think you might not know about black voters: they are pragmatists through and through. They don't vote for who they think would give them the most of what they'd want, they vote for the least harmful, most electable candidate to remove someone who is overtly and demonstrably worse. Go read black activists, especially women's, writings/blogs/Tweets, and particularly this article. They get that while Sanders' or Warren's policies might benefit them the most, they are realistic that Sanders really doesn't have a chance in hell of winning and Warren is a long shot. Plus, Biden has been involved in, and fought for, the black community his entire career - they respect that authenticity.

Perhaps learning more about Biden's history, you might understand why he'd say that, and why he's consistently had the support of the African American community throughout his career. You have to consider reality from their perspective rather than your own.

‘I know Joe’s heart’: Why black voters are backing Joe Biden
By ERRIN HAINES, AP News | December 1, 2019

People who have known Biden for decades speak to the depth of good will he has among black voters. They talk of Biden as someone who has known and courted black voters for more than a half century. That, they say, could make it difficult for other candidates who hope to persuade some black voters to change their minds.

“He knew our plight, he knew how we felt,” said Richard “Mouse” Smith, who met Biden as a kid in Wilmington, Delaware’s black community where Biden worked as a lifeguard during college.

“He walked through gangs, learned all nicknames, he was part of this community,” said Smith, who remains one of Biden’s oldest and closest friends. “Joe had to be accountable to the black leadership in this city. We made him.”

Biden has credited his early years in Delaware politics as formative, particularly the community known as “The Bucket,” the largely African American, downtrodden northeast Wilmington neighborhood that was home to housing projects, crime, drugs and violence. He returned to the area as a young lawyer during the 1968 Wilmington riots after the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. He represented the community of New Castle as a county councilman, supporting public housing and opposing highway projects he saw as potentially harmful to black neighborhoods.

African Americans Support Biden Over Other Democratic Candidates
Morning Edition, NPR | February 3, 2020

MARTIN: So Joe Biden has the most support from African American voters than any other Democrat in this race, even though there have been several black candidates in the race, including two senators - Kamala Harris, Cory Booker. Can you explain what black voters see in him?

RICHMOND: Well, I think it's his body of work and the fact that they see in him exactly what President Obama saw in him when he decided to canvass the entire Senate - many of senators who are in the race now were there - and he decided to offer the vice presidency to Joe Biden because of his body of work, from his involvement in the civil rights movement, the fact that he left a law firm to join the public defender's office, the fact that he is steady, and he is consistent in who he is, who he says he is.

Why Biden's rivals can't break his lock on black voters
By LAURA BARRÓN-LÓPEZ, Politico | 01/23/2020

GREENVILLE, S.C. — Julius Stephens is 74, black, and calls himself a liberal.

Standing outside Big Rod’s Barber Shop in North Augusta after watching Joe Biden surrogates rally on behalf of the vice president last week, Stephens gushed about a different candidate: Elizabeth Warren. The Army veteran cited her health care plan and said he “like(s) a lot of the things Warren is saying.” He also praised Bernie Sanders’ policies.

But then Stephens added that the country “would never vote for a woman and a liberal that’s been branded a socialist.” So he’s planning to vote for Biden.


"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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28 Feb 2020 08:47 - 28 Feb 2020 08:47 #396 by Pony Soldier
You know what is most disgusting about the post above? The repeated use of the word “they” when speaking of black Americans. It’s almost funny how lefties don’t see racism in the mirror. Almost like they are vampires.

Oh, and I’ll be voting for Biden tomorrow since the primary here is open. I hope he gives Bernie a run. Trump can trounce either one but Biden can’t even form a coherent sentence half the time.

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28 Feb 2020 09:14 #397 by ramage
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This post applies to the "C virus" also

Tulsi Gabbard, remember her, still running for the democrat nomination, has said the following:
“I’ve really been focused on looking at where the problem sets that exist in our country, in my home state of Hawaii, that is a major hub and port for flights coming in from across the Asia-Pacific, and how we can solve them. It’s why I called yesterday for us to temporarily suspend flights coming from Japan, South Korea, Italy, just like the flights from China were suspended. Because that actually worked to help prevent this from getting to our shores. We need to suspend these flights until we have the ability to provide these tests at their site of departure before people get on the plane and come to our country.”

She added, “t may cause a little harm or hardship in the short-term. But that will pale in comparison to the hardship placed on the lives of the American people and our economy if these flights are suspended after the fact, after the coronavirus further takes hold and root here in the country.”



It is a shame that she is not allowed in the debates.

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28 Feb 2020 11:41 #398 by ScienceChic
:eyeroll: How should I relay that information PonySoldier? Say "we" like I'm black when I'm not? I don't pretend to fully understand the lives of every ethnic and religious group, and gender, in this country, but I at least try to listen, empathize, and not judge. I sure haven't called you a racist even though you are supporting a racist for a president. And for damn sure, I share what I find enlightening so you can read it for yourself. You do realize that Bebe Coker, Jason Johnson, Democratic Rep. Cedric Richmond who made the statements in those articles are black, right?

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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28 Feb 2020 17:04 #399 by ramage
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SC,
Please expand on whom you think PonySoldier is supporting for President and why that individual is racist .
"I sure haven't called you a racist even though you are supporting a racist for a president. "

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29 Feb 2020 06:54 - 29 Feb 2020 07:00 #400 by homeagain
YOUR interpretation of the statement is inaccurate.....this man is looked up to in the community and RESPECTED, ''an older woman asked me to come close to her, she whispered in my ear,
WE NEED to hear from:"....who should I vote for? (paraphrasing the video).....it was NOT that
she did not know what to do, it was that she viewed HIS opinion as a beacon on who to TRUST.

t sounded as if you were saying he was leader of all people of color. He’s not and people of color are not some unthinking bloc of voters. You will see that in the upcoming election. I would venture that Senator Scott is at least as respected as Congressman Clyburn.

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