2020 Presidential Candidates

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Dumbing down the masses? Do you honestly think the nation isn't as smart as it used to be? More people are going to college than ever before. More people are graduating high school and are literate than 100 years ago.

"As education-reform activists prepare to demonstrate at New York’s City Hall on Wednesday, a massive grade-fraud scandal has been exposed in America’s largest public-school system. SOS NYC, an organization that fights the under-education of Gotham’s children, released middle-school ratings using its nascent School Grade Fraud Index (SGFI). The Index divides the percentage of a school’s students who pass their math classes by the percentage of students who pass their New York State math tests. The higher the Index, the greater the fraud. If 100 percent of a middle school’s students pass their math classes and 100 percent of students also pass the state math test, the school would have an SGFI of 1.0. Conversely, if 100 percent of students passed their math classes, but only 1 percent of students passed the state exam, the school’s Index would be 100."...

spectator.org/mathgate-new-york-city-may...grade-fraud-scandal/

Great example above. Record numbers of Americans are going to college but there are also record numbers of college remedial classes being taught. So many high school graduates aren't up to standards. They get accepted by colleges eager for tuition but then spend their first years taking essentially high school courses so they can get up to speed.

Back on topic: Anyone read Nate Silver? He is a respected pollster who seems to believe that these primaries are going to essentially be useless. Based on 2016, whoever was leading at this point won the nomination. So it looks like it will be Biden and Trump in 2020. Personally I am not willing to accept that. We have two elderly candidates who could develop mental and/or physical health concerns in the next two years. And the campaign trail is tough enough on fifty and sixty year old people. Imagine 70plus. Plus they both might make huge gaffes still.


Side note: The pollster Nate Silver is not the best businessman. Declaring winners now might hurt how many polls people buy from him in the future.

Biden's slogan "Make America Moral Again"

I wonder how many MAMA hats he's going to sell? LOL

How exactly has America been less moral in the last two years? Hillary and her slimy husband are not in the White House so I'd say we dodged a major morality bullet right there.

Oh yeah, Trump says mean things that hurt feelings... boo hoo LOL.

Rick,

I'm sorry. I cannot support someone who calls everyone names, belittles people and tells lies. Pounce on me if you want, but if that is what you want your children to aspire to, I weep for the future of this country. Clintons were not saints. Neither were many of the other presidents, and other elected officials. but in my life time, I have never seen someone so continually bully everyone around him, call people names, belittle his own appointed officials. Whether we want to admit it or not, there is something to be said for some decorum in this world. to me, it seems it has become a very ugly place, full of hate, vitriol, and general malcontent spewed across TV and the internet on a daily basis. I taught my boys not to let people run over them, stand up for themselves, but to do it as politely as possible - if they don't listen, sometimes you have to break a nose or two - but that seems to be President Trump's first course of action. I'm no prude, but if my kids, or any of my kin for that matter, talked to people the way this president does, I'd paddle their butts.

parkcobound wrote: Rick,

I'm sorry. I cannot support someone who calls everyone names, belittles people and tells lies. Pounce on me if you want, but if that is what you want your children to aspire to, I weep for the future of this country. Clintons were not saints. Neither were many of the other presidents, and other elected officials. but in my life time, I have never seen someone so continually bully everyone around him, call people names, belittle his own appointed officials. Whether we want to admit it or not, there is something to be said for some decorum in this world. to me, it seems it has become a very ugly place, full of hate, vitriol, and general malcontent spewed across TV and the internet on a daily basis. I taught my boys not to let people run over them, stand up for themselves, but to do it as politely as possible - if they don't listen, sometimes you have to break a nose or two - but that seems to be President Trump's first course of action. I'm no prude, but if my kids, or any of my kin for that matter, talked to people the way this president does, I'd paddle their butts.

No offense, but you seem to forget or ignore all the vile things people have been saying about Trump from the beginning. I agree he's not a tactful guy and definitely not the definition of "presidential", but he's just a typical loudmouth NYer.

So if you ask what's more important, a presidential president who doesn't understand economics and how to grow an economy or an asshole who does, I'll take the asshole every time. I guarantee that if a Dem beats Trump and vows to undo the tax cuts and restore all the government red take, this economy will tank. Quote me.

you're entitled to your opinion certainly. I don't agree that the economy has turned around for everyone, I also cannot overlook the hatred coming out of the whitehouse. That kind of rhetoric is contagious. We have enough evil in this world already.

Can you please give an example of this hatred.

you have got to be kidding me, sure it's on the news every day. He calls people names, makes fun of them, belittles people. you won't like the first source I found, but I'm at work, so had to be quick:

www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/u...twitter-insults.html

secondly:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_used_by_Donald_Trump

and here's one for you:
abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-long-hist...es/story?id=48348956

and last for now, though I'm pretty sure I could find you 20 of these articles:
www.forbes.com/pictures/flji45elmm/9-dummy/#1a14a28878fb

my personal favorite is when he calls the people he has appointed names. My dad would have washed my mouth out with soap for some of the stuff he says.

If that's ok with you, that's your point of view and you are entitled to it. Personally I think it is bad behavior, makes our entire country look like a bunch of trash, teaches our kids it's ok to say what ever they want to who ever they want, in any way that they want, and in my mind, basically encourages everyone to be a bully. I guess if it's ok for the leader of the free world, it's ok?

but not for me, and I also am entitled to my opinion.

I think you probably should have let ParkCo answer. He/She at least has a modicum of credibility on this issue. A quick glance at the Ring tells us all we need to know about how you were raised, but, to your point: I don’t see petty name calling as hateful. It’s petty and ugly, but it’s not hate.